Negative. I defend logic and reason. I oppose rhetoric and illogical emotion. Again, you interpret that as defending the company, when all I'm doing is asking for people to keep their heads on straight and not exaggerate things merely because they are emotional. Your interpretation is incorrect. You take ANY pushback against the rhetoric as full support for the opposite side.

I've said over and over again that we absolutely need a CBA, and we need it yesterday. I was wrong about the timing, and I lost a bunch of money and Scotch with those bets.

 

...it's NOT a misinterpretation by us. The MEC has asked all members to wear a lanyard. The misinterpretation is BY YOU in the fact that you think you are supporting the membership in their drive for a contract by not wearing your lanyard...when in fact you are showing a complete lack of respect for your fellow B6 ALPA brothers and sisters and the MEC/NC by your willful, dare I see gleeful, disregard to this request. Your complete foolishness is laid to bare for all to see when you brag on a public forum about how you thumb your nose at the rest of us who fully support the membership and the MEC/NC by complying with this simple request.

Shame on you for your foolhardy attempt to justify your ignorance, or worse...your subversion of the task at hand.

GFY...

FC

 

Dude. Calm down. You're gonna blow a gasket...

 

Why don't you just wear your lanyard? I doubt it's a religious conviction.

Are you trying to play both sides? Are you a project pilot or something? I thought all JB staff pilots could wear an ALPA lanyard even if they do more than fly airplanes...

I'm just asking. I only care about whether you end up voting for a substandard contract...

 

Spirit pilot here.

Be very careful what you post, for sure. But also keep in mind that you could very well have management trolls posting these negative things as well. While I suppose it can't be proven, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the incriminating posts in the Spirit case were not made by Spirit pilots.

Also, our MEC had us document suspicious looking company activity. For example, Spirit cancelled flights even though there was a full crew of Pilots and FAs at the gate. When the Schedulers were told there was a full crew, no one cared. Have your MEC call our MEC, if they haven't already.

I'm of the firm belief that our Spring Meltdown was partially engineered, or at least helped along by the company.

Many are saying that the reason our new contract is so poor is because the TRO took away our credibility. If your Mgmt is as evil as ours, it's probably the next play in their playbook. We got played perfectly, don't let it happen to you.

 

Let me try and take some of the heat off Southerner with this question. I have worn a lanyard here since day one at the request of the union. For my entire airline career before here, I have never worn one. I don't like my ID hanging around my neck. So, when we eventually get a TA and contract, will you fine people look on me with contempt if I no longer wear a lanyard until negotiations start again? I humbly await your responses.

 

Southerner, wear your lanyard. You are tagged “against us.” It is just that simple.

 

Nope just during contract negotiations is all I care about. Because our mec asked us too and to show support for them and their work.

 

I have never nor will ever clean an aircraft under any circumstances.

BTW the ALPA lanyard tends to break and have had to replace it thrice.

 

If you don’t care why ask?