SmitteyB

Are LEC/MECs included in these figures?

queue

Not in that report. The screenshots are from National ALPA. It's about 100 pages long. I didn't even go for the juicy ones. I just went for random examples. Using the link I provided before, you can search for the individual LEC/MECs. These reports are required to be filed yearly so there's a 1 yr latency, like taxes.

Imagine how much money they could save by doing all meetings, conferences, and negotiations using video conferencing, shared computer screens, or even telephones! Voice comms were good enough for NASA to land astronauts on the moon, yet we're still paying $15,000 for a simple meeting for airline fare, food, hotels, etc. Even the military had to switch to remote computer-based meetings.

The reason I even mentioned this was because it shows money mismanagement at national ALPA. I haven't looked at 191. But, if they are wasting money on this stuff at a national level, that's stealing from Peter to Pay Paul. $5000 could have rented us a banner tow plane flying over Rockaway Beach on a sunny day with "http://jetBlueDoesBadThings.com". Now that they are calling people in to talk to the chief pilot (and other management) for unknown reasons, that $$$ could be used to have an ALPA lawyer in there with you since talking to anyone in management is a legal trap.

Heck, that $$$ could be used to by A LOT of banner tow drones!





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rvr1800

Queue what makes you think that ALPA legal isn’t consulted in discipline issues? No they’re probably not in the room for every carpet dance but they can be if it’s necessary.

pilotpayne

There is always a rep (you should never meet without one)and if it gets that far that’s what ALPA legal is for.

I think que is mixing facts, charts and innuendo, so it seems like he knows what he is talking about.

queue

You know I can't say things here. But let me ask you this... why are people being forced coercively to sign Non Disclosure Agreements? It's not like they can have a talk without agreeing to an NDA.

I never see people being fired or suspended for insubordination for not signing NDAs.


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queue

And what is the utility of having a rep vs. my mom? What services and guarantees do they offer?


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rvr1800

There will be a rep who knows exactly what to say and when because of their experience in these matters. And if they don’t they have ALPA legal to consult with.

coopervane

Exactly who and when and why has someone been forced to do this?

Is this supposedly common knowledge?

queue

You can research things for yourself. This forum is for entertainment purposes.




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queue

And what exactly does the ALPA rep brief the employee to say or not say? You can PM me if you don't want to put it here.



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