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Old 04-21-2018 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
190 is going away.
Yeah maybe but the flying the 190 does is not. That’s my biggest gripe about it. Regional flying. But it could be worse. They could say “operated by” on the side of them. Scope!
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Old 04-21-2018 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JAH0908
Can anyone from the last class tell me what was the split of aircraft type offered?
17 people in class. Vacancies were 47 bus JFK, 9 190 JFK, 9 bus BOS, 9 190 BOS. Everyone got what they wanted except for one.

Next class I've been told its almost all 190.
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Old 04-24-2018 | 02:31 AM
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Historically you will get MCO based faster...but one never knows at this JokeTown.
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Old 04-24-2018 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
The way this place runs it's operations, the A320 may be going away.
Just read this- Awesome
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Old 04-24-2018 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
Yeah maybe but the flying the 190 does is not. That’s my biggest gripe about it. Regional flying. But it could be worse. They could say “operated by” on the side of them. Scope!
C-series. Will you fly it without a CBA?
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Old 04-24-2018 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JAH0908
got it, thanks.

do you know how long before you can bid FLL?
I'll give you my experience: I was assigned BOS 190 in training (June '16). I live in Miami. Commuting is not an issue in terms of getting from FLL to BOS or back, but it is certainly an issue when it comes to QOL as it's rare to have trips that are commutable on both sides. That being said, I was a line holder within 3 months and in less than two years, I'm nearly half way up the seniority list in BOS. I average 1 night in FLL on 3 day trips and 2 nights in FLL on 4 day trips. I'm home a lot. The 4 guys that got the 320 were on RSV for over a year in JFK.

Keep in mind that JB has a 2 year seat lock as well. When I came on, I wasn't so concerned about not getting the 320 because for the previous 3 or 4 years the wait to get into FLL was 2 years, meaning my seat lock would be expiring on the 190 just as I'd be able to hold FLL. Funny enough, though, that wait fell to 15 months. It's good in that when I finally comes down to FLL at the end of this summer on the 320, I'll have a few dozen guys below me.

Overall, I've enjoyed my time on the 190, but I'm absolutely looking forward to being home based and getting a significant bump in pay. Let's be honest, 10% is actually a pretty nice chunk of change. I'm also looking forward to leaving 4 leg days behind me, though that comes with the trade off of moving to a fleet that does redeye flying.

For my class, it was easy. The 4 oldest guys took the 320 leaving the rest of us with a choice of BOS or JFK on the 190. Our airframe was selected for us.

If your goal is to get to FLL ASAP, bid the 320, keeping in mind that while your reserve time will be longer, you'll likely get to FLL sooner.
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Old 04-24-2018 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
C-series. Will you fly it without a CBA?
I see what you’re getting at but we don’t have a CBA to fall back on like the Southwest guys did. We wouldn’t have a choice.
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Old 04-24-2018 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
I see what you’re getting at but we don’t have a CBA to fall back on like the Southwest guys did. We wouldn’t have a choice.
Im more curious if they would even try it without a CBA- I know we have zero choices with this current $hit sandwich that is Jetblew rvr.
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Old 04-30-2018 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by thrufru
I'll give you my experience: I was assigned BOS 190 in training (June '16). I live in Miami. Commuting is not an issue in terms of getting from FLL to BOS or back, but it is certainly an issue when it comes to QOL as it's rare to have trips that are commutable on both sides. That being said, I was a line holder within 3 months and in less than two years, I'm nearly half way up the seniority list in BOS. I average 1 night in FLL on 3 day trips and 2 nights in FLL on 4 day trips. I'm home a lot. The 4 guys that got the 320 were on RSV for over a year in JFK.

Keep in mind that JB has a 2 year seat lock as well. When I came on, I wasn't so concerned about not getting the 320 because for the previous 3 or 4 years the wait to get into FLL was 2 years, meaning my seat lock would be expiring on the 190 just as I'd be able to hold FLL. Funny enough, though, that wait fell to 15 months. It's good in that when I finally comes down to FLL at the end of this summer on the 320, I'll have a few dozen guys below me.

Overall, I've enjoyed my time on the 190, but I'm absolutely looking forward to being home based and getting a significant bump in pay. Let's be honest, 10% is actually a pretty nice chunk of change. I'm also looking forward to leaving 4 leg days behind me, though that comes with the trade off of moving to a fleet that does redeye flying.

For my class, it was easy. The 4 oldest guys took the 320 leaving the rest of us with a choice of BOS or JFK on the 190. Our airframe was selected for us.

If your goal is to get to FLL ASAP, bid the 320, keeping in mind that while your reserve time will be longer, you'll likely get to FLL sooner.
Just think how good a 40% pay bump would be.

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Old 04-30-2018 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by thrufru
I'll give you my experience: I was assigned BOS 190 in training (June '16). I live in Miami. Commuting is not an issue in terms of getting from FLL to BOS or back, but it is certainly an issue when it comes to QOL as it's rare to have trips that are commutable on both sides. That being said, I was a line holder within 3 months and in less than two years, I'm nearly half way up the seniority list in BOS. I average 1 night in FLL on 3 day trips and 2 nights in FLL on 4 day trips. I'm home a lot. The 4 guys that got the 320 were on RSV for over a year in JFK.

Keep in mind that JB has a 2 year seat lock as well. When I came on, I wasn't so concerned about not getting the 320 because for the previous 3 or 4 years the wait to get into FLL was 2 years, meaning my seat lock would be expiring on the 190 just as I'd be able to hold FLL. Funny enough, though, that wait fell to 15 months. It's good in that when I finally comes down to FLL at the end of this summer on the 320, I'll have a few dozen guys below me.

Overall, I've enjoyed my time on the 190, but I'm absolutely looking forward to being home based and getting a significant bump in pay. Let's be honest, 10% is actually a pretty nice chunk of change. I'm also looking forward to leaving 4 leg days behind me, though that comes with the trade off of moving to a fleet that does redeye flying.

For my class, it was easy. The 4 oldest guys took the 320 leaving the rest of us with a choice of BOS or JFK on the 190. Our airframe was selected for us.

If your goal is to get to FLL ASAP, bid the 320, keeping in mind that while your reserve time will be longer, you'll likely get to FLL sooner.
I'll echo 'thrufu' in timeline and experience. I'm JFK 190, live in Fort Lauderdale, been here about 2 years & spent maybe 4/5 months on RSV in JFK out of groundschool and have held a solid line since. I'm also home quite a bit bidding FLL layovers and with some of those triple FLL layovers, life here sometimes has the fleeting appearance of being a breeze. The commute is easy however, it's still a commute and I personally detest commuting to the n'th power. My utmost respect to those that commute for a career whether by choice or circumstance.

With that said I've walked the line in the cold with my fellow brethren and sistren and will not hesitate to do so again if able as I firmly believe that we deserve a market rate contract and as much as B6 isn't everyone's cup of tea, you at least pay me market rate and I can look past the greener grass over the septic tank. YMMV.
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