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Old 05-12-2018, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas View Post
I am actually really impressed with management right now.

If the TA is bad, they will clear the summer with all the help they need while we review and vote. If it is good, they aren't as short sighted as I thought. Either way they played the game well and max performed the pilot group.
Don't give them so much credit. If it's bad, we'll know early. Won't be a good summer for them if it is...
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Old 05-12-2018, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas View Post
I am actually really impressed with management right now.

If the TA is bad, they will clear the summer with all the help they need while we review and vote. If it is good, they aren't as short sighted as I thought. Either way they played the game well and max performed the pilot group.
Dude how would they clear the summer? We will know the details soon.
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Old 05-12-2018, 05:23 AM
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Since the start of my career I wasn’t a lanyard guy but since coming to B6 I wore the ALPA one to show support. Is it safe to say we can go back to the clip? Maybe B6 Alpa cards for under our IDs wouldn’t be a bad thing?? (I believe AA has this)
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Old 05-12-2018, 05:45 AM
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Since the start of my career I wasn’t a lanyard guy but since coming to B6 I wore the ALPA one to show support. Is it safe to say we can go back to the clip? Maybe B6 Alpa cards for under our IDs wouldn’t be a bad thing?? (I believe AA has this)
An ALPA card that shows below your ID isn't a bad idea.

Thanks for wearing the lanyard, even though you prefer not to, it's what was asked of you and I think it helped.

There is going to be some hot debates about shelving the lanyard now, and I think it is less important than before, but still serves a purpose.

Food for thought, this is not over. First, we haven't seen the TA. It may not be acceptable. Next is the FIGHT to get JB to fully implement and LIVE BY this agreement (think perpetually late reserve assignments!). They will slow roll the implementation of all the details. They will "interpret" things differently (yes I know great effort has been put into writing definitions and examples, but this is BLUEJET!).

After we finally get it implemented, it won't be long before early opener contract negotiations start again and then process just repeats all over again!

I will be less critical of non-lanyard wearers outside of section 6, but I think this is just a new paradigm and the lanyard is useful perpetually.

If you do shelve it, prepare to don it early and often in the future.
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Old 05-12-2018, 05:50 AM
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The last union email still says wear your lanyard. So it’s still spelled out for us. Unless you want to look like southerner, keep it on until the language is finalized and we’ve seen the thing, and the union clarifies when we can remove them.
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Old 05-12-2018, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilot417 View Post
Since the start of my career I wasn’t a lanyard guy but since coming to B6 I wore the ALPA one to show support. Is it safe to say we can go back to the clip? Maybe B6 Alpa cards for under our IDs wouldn’t be a bad thing?? (I believe AA has this)
I agree once this is all done that would be a nice option.
I hate hate hate lanyards (I know I’m odd) I would love to go back to the clip thing. But it’s not over yet.
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Old 05-12-2018, 06:12 AM
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Dude how would they clear the summer? We will know the details soon.
Well, it is a cease fire right now. I know I wont be deleting the RSA emails with extreme prejudice like I have been. I want them to see what a happy pilot force can do for them. That way if we vote it down they will see the value in concluding further negotiations quickly. If we vote yes, I want to help the company succeed from this point forward.
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Old 05-12-2018, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas View Post
Well, it is a cease fire right now. I know I wont be deleting the RSA emails with extreme prejudice like I have been. I want them to see what a happy pilot force can do for them. That way if we vote it down they will see the value in concluding further negotiations quickly. If we vote yes, I want to help the company succeed from this point forward.
I think a majority of us do want to see this airline succeed, the devil is still in the details but I don’t think the NC would sign off on a crappy deal.
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Old 05-12-2018, 08:14 AM
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I’ll throw caution to the wind... if they’re remotely as slimy as NK management they’ll try and sue you for they’re poor staffing model when the summer gets crazy. Congrats guys... hope your leaps and bounds ahead of us
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Old 05-12-2018, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas View Post
Well, it is a cease fire right now. I know I wont be deleting the RSA emails with extreme prejudice like I have been. I want them to see what a happy pilot force can do for them. That way if we vote it down they will see the value in concluding further negotiations quickly. If we vote yes, I want to help the company succeed from this point forward.



I agree with that
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