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If some want to go back to being helpers, have at it. I personally think its disrespectful to our hard fought battle and the hard work the MEC has put forth. Management has shown its true colors how they feel about its employees The way we've stood together the last couples years should remain the standard so we won't have go through this again I have 25 years as most of us do, I'd like to think that when we go thru this again, and we will, Mgmt will know how strong we are and can be. I personally won't be answering my phone on my days off any time soon. All goodwill has been lost. I don't feel like I'm owed anything. I feel we owe our integrity to our peers and union to never give an inch again

NightOwl

P-3Bubba

I don’t think you HAVE to be a hater. You have to find that balance. The whole point of not picking up VDA/RSA was a personal choice in how to best utilize YOUR time during a Labor Dispute.

A CBA should include the work rules to bolster staffing in the appropriate areas that benefit the company, customer and pilots. The compensation package should implement a quantifiable measure of value when compared to the work rules.

Rushing in to be a helper or take off your lanyard is still your personal choice. But follow the MEC guidance.

I hope the AIP yields a presentable TA and hopefully a vote to a CBA.

-Bubs

Bozo the pilot

SOP till CBA

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No, you are pathetic. If you are a pilot, you ARE the problem of the profession: a beaten down, defeatist who has no backbone to fight for his self-worth.

Pilots are professionals that have gone through substantial training, yearly evaluations, and trials on every flight. A good pilot studies hard and continues to self improve. Pilots should make no apologies to people like you who don't understand this. You can read my other posts to see statistics on pilot danger levels, education, testing, and workplace stress. It's a very unique profession most paralleled by medical doctors and engineers.

It's not the world that owes him 13 years, it's JetBlue. They have over a decade of abusive practices, deceit, progressive underpayment, and erosion of safety culture. BJ owes pilots for those 13 years of decline and they will pay.

Next time you fly, appreciate that those pilots are the professionals they are. Thank those two pilots who landed that 737 after one passenger died (one was Navy and the other USAF). I personally flew with one of them in a previous life and I didn't expect any less of that pilot. That pilot had substantial training, education, and accomplishment in their career.

You really need to check your attitude. This is not about entitlement. It's 100% about being treated and paid as professionals.


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queue

Yes, this is only the beginning.

There is significant work to change this profession and the industry to where it should be.

We don't have a contract yet so I'm not celebrating, patting people on the back, or anything. Kim Jong made Obama pretty hopeful several times while he stalled the US from action allowing him to develop nuclear weapons in North Korea. It took Trump to get negotiations going.

Don't be complacent. We have not gotten anything yet. Wear those lanyards, put pressure on your union to act (you're paying a fortune), fly SOP, accept no safety deviations or file an FAA Hotline report, and don't vote yes for a contract that makes any compromises whatsoever. BJ could end this tomorrow if they met our requirements.



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queue

That's right - agreed.

Firstly, "being a hater" is a phrase used by teenagers.

Secondly, being critical, as a professional should be, is not the same as being a hater. If you sit back and play both sides to remain neutral, well that makes you part of the problem. It makes you a passive sheep that only worries about himself. People with principles often are engaged in battle for their beliefs.

Never forget who the apologists and defeatists were after we get a contract. They must be the example of what not to be, such that no one ever forgets.



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Gordie H

Listen, I’m still a fairly new 121 person so I’m very open to thoughts here…but aren’t we now in “cease fire” mode (as evidenced by the picket cancellation)? And don’t we want to be extra helpful now to show a discernable difference on what a happy pilot group can be like? Fully understand that if a contract is voted down we go back to full on labor dispute. And if that happens I can assure you my personal motivation to come in on days off or whatever would truly drop way back down.

I get that guys that have been here a long time may well still have ill will (and probably for just cause). But I’m a practical person and if mgmt sees no difference in a pilot group with a contract (or for now a potential contract), what motivation would they have to readily give us more if the time comes later on this summer?

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Absolutely not! The enemy is relying on your expressions of true humanity in order to exploit it. If a murderer commits a murderer 30 years ago, does law enforcement forget?

Your definition of being practical is the same as being foolish. BJ is simply executing their playbook. Don't ever forget that they would fire you for anything - it's just business to them. You are just a number. Don't personify them. They are not people - they are acting on numbers and other market forces. You are expendable. The ONLY way to influence management is to fight for your worth.

Management is not "giving" you anything - you are earning it. And if you don't receive what you earned, they are stealing from you.

Again, have respect for the profession. A professional doesn't act happy or sad just because management throws out a carrot (which it's not even a carrot in this case). Either way, you are a puppet and they are pulling the strings as evidenced by your thought patterns. Management at any company will never reciprocate the way you want to. Everything they do is calculated, strategized, consulted on, and administered by lawyers. Negotiating with your heart and other things that make you human is just being naive to how the corporate world really works.

I personally think that canceling the informational picket was a big mistake only equaled to stopping the bombing of North Vietnam after Linebacker I & II because N. Vietnam cried uncle from heavy losses. They took advantage of this pause and ultimately it was one of the many reasons we lost Vietnam. In the corporate world, don't forget about Enron, Amazon's workforce exploitations, numerous airlines that killed passengers and pilots by unethical maintenance practices, FoxConn's (Apple) suicide nets, Monsanto poisoning the world and lying about it, and so on. These are not good people - these are corporate killers who don't care one iota about you. If you think the way you are advocating, we WILL lose this battle and the war for the industry.




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Gordie H

Bless your heart Sir