CaptCoolHand

LoL do whatever you want. You asked if we could get one thing. That’s one.

Sorry didn’t mean to poo poo on the pitty party.

BunkerF16

Jeez, man.....can't a brother feel bad for himself without you answering the question I asked? What the heck's wrong with you?

queue

The rules will only get us to where we should've been all along. For example, we should've always been able to start reserve at least at 1000L instead of 0200L. We should've always have the reserve schedule out by a certain time, not late for entire months continuously. You're trying to shine a turd by being grateful for petty privileges real airlines already had. BJ played B6ALPA and you by keeping standard so low that now you beg for table scraps.

Will the basic pay rates exceed the pathetic Alaska+1 in the AIP bulletpoints? If not, only the senior dinosaurs will benefit since they can monopolize the productive trips while spending half their time deadheading. The rest of BJ pilots will still get paid barely pennies more than now and grossly below real airlines. If you have a family and can't work 100 credit hrs a month, all the rules in the world won't pay the bills.

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Bozo the pilot

Lets compare the entire contract next to Alaska with ALL of the facts before we look at the 12 Captain scale and call the entire TA (Alaska +1).
We'll have the info we need soon enough to make an informed decision Q. Are you going to wait? Oh yea, you're not.

CaptCoolHand

I’m sorry. I meant, I feel your pain. I too have felt sorrow, loss, pain, and deceit. I want to want to fix it. I just can’t. It’s me not you. I hope soon we can move past this low point in our relationship.

Let’s just remember the good times. 😘

queue

I have no choice but to wait - you know that...

On the other hand, consider this... WITHOUT being a workaholic family wrecker who picks up RSA's 24/7, how will the 99% BJ pilot demographic benefit from the low basic AIP bulletpoint rates?

What will the final language do? Tell us that reserve now starts at 1000L instead of 0200L. We should've had that all along! Even if it has better commuting possibilities, it still won't appreciably increase pay. BJ has engineered an almost cost-neutral proposal that simply trades rules we should've always had for us working harder but still not making professional rates. If rates don't increase substantially, then you're basically trading higher productivity (you work harder) to get better work rules. How is this a win for us?

We demand PAY & RULES, not trading one for another.

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MGMTiswatchingU

If you wanted those rules & pay sooner then you (all Jetblue pilots who voted no for ALPA 2 times) should've voted in ALPA sooner and not the 3rd time around.

queue

How do you know I didn't vote Yes to ALPA the first time and was also instrumental in getting them on property? (not admitting to anything either way) In any case... yes, BJ pilots are getting what they deserve. It's shameful to see such a defeated, beaten down pilot group that begs for sloppy seconds and is happy with petty privileges they should've had all along. It's entirely OUR fault.

It took 3 times to get ALPA on property and that's pathetic.

But they're here now and the market is at a record position. CEOs and all the MBAs are hoarding all the profit off our backs. It's time to pay up to the people who actually do the work - the professionals.

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MGMTiswatchingU

I dont know if you voted yes or no, that's why I say "all pilots that voted NO to ALPA 2 times".

queue

No problem either way. The problem is BJ still has that Regional mentality where these guys are willing to trade Pay for Rules or vice-versa. They've been brainwashed into thinking that you can't have both (like a real airline).

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