Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2623426)

You act like I know nothing of reserve.

First, I said it was rarely Not never used. I sit reserve. I have broken guarantee 2 months a year, in the summer, on average. So no doubt it does happen and it's good we have the language to address it.

How much does an earlier DRO cost? Also, what is the DRO time at DAL?

I will ask that again since the answer highlights how substandard our new reserve is.

What time is the DRO released at DAL?

The day off coming out of the companies budget of PRL days is straight from ALPA's mouth.

LCR will be doing all the crap flying. It is also the only sort of reserve where the bypass language means anything. The junior guys on LCR will hate life.

The junior guys on SCR will be on Silo D every day. Look at the language.

If that isn't the junior guys getting reamed I don't know what is.

I guess I should say it will be more or less cost neutral. Certainly there are improvements. But it is well below industry standard.

What time is the DRO released at DAL again?

Originally Posted by capt707 (Post 2623527)

It’s going to be 2020 or longer regardless of yes or no vote. This company has not met one single deadline in 18 years!! Unless there is some financial penalty to the company attached to the implementation timeline, they are going to delay, sweet talk and make excuses until the Grievance process is our recourse for non-compliance.

Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2623581)

I think you don't value yourself because you are willing to work harder for less money.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2623506)

Maybe you missed the part where he is always asking us to give up our identities? I don't think he wants to buy me coffee.

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2623623)

Actually, that's why I like the scheduling section. We will get to work less for more.

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2623623)

Actually, that's why I like the scheduling section. We will get to work less for more.

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2623576)

To that end a poor scope section could cost us seniority should jb decide to do as Alaska did and farm out half of their ASMs.

How many 737 and 717 spots could be flown by mainline pilots at UAL and DAL if the 70seaters were not allowed? Or better if those RJs were at mainline?

Not to mention the M&A language. If it never happens it’s worthless, it could be priceless.

You are 100% correct. Each of us has to put a price on perceived costless items. Past performance is not indicative of future results...

I’m still undecided.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2623665)

Agree the M&A language is important if we ever need it.

And I'm not one to ever suggest we give up RJ scope, but this is BLUEJET.

For all the reasons I've said before, no slots, no gates, pilot shortage, etc... I think we are in a low-threat environment with RJs. But I would not ever advocate we give up that scope. Also remember, if we merge with anyone other than Southwest, say goodbye to our RJ scope.

Large domestic codeshare with Alaska (onto their RJs by the way) is a real threat because we can't (and/or won't) build our own West coast network anymore.

So bare with me here, does it not occur to you that, and remember exactly who you work for, that we achieved good protections in an area that JB has no intentions of pursuing (RJs) and almost NO protections against what they really intend to do (large domestic codeshare)?

Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2623701)

Everytime JB announces a new city or a new aircraft we know that it will be an JB ALPA pilot doing the flying. The thought that you would trust them or give that up because you don't think its a threat terrifies me........

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2623710)

You LITERALLY cannot read. I said EXACTLY the opposite hyper.