Industry leading examples would be things like:

• Positive space commuting always.
• Pay at an automatic snap up with the formula of No Lower than Top 4 / 4.
• Guaranteed 15 days off per month.

We literally have NOTHING industry leading. Everything in there is only vaguely catching up at best, but mostly 1/2 way to catching up.

The biggest danger is the vague legal language. Look at the simple paragraph on the definition of "positive contact". It opens up more loopholes for BJ to exploit, which they have done countless times in the past. Notice there is no definition of what positive contact means with JETCRW, yet it's in there.

Also, notice the contract now legitimizes the dependability policy. Read the DP carefully! Even an EMERGENCY counts against your dependability. The contract actually makes this WORSE since now it's contractual. Whoever let this through is a fool.

ALPA can do whatever roadshows they want but in the end it's only a sales pitch designed to make you feel good about something that isn't. Only the legal language matters. If it's not in the contract, it doesn't exist, regardless of what they say. Any notes that exist in ALPA's vault do not count.

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Frontier pilot, while you guys may be at an even lower pay rate than BJ, this is a cyclical thing. I hope you don't see this as a reason for divisiveness. We're all in this together in the sense that if we get a horrible contract (e.g. TA 1), your management will get precedent to further erode your pay/benefits/rules. This will have the same effect on the top 3 legacies. Both Frontier and BJ will be a drag to their negotiations. I would personally love to see where any Airbus pilot get paid the same base pay regardless of the airline they fly for. Any differences in pay can be accounted for by profit sharing. We're in an industry run by vulture MBAs who only care about their golden parachutes. They literally would sell their mothers and put your family on the street if it benefited them. We have to stop them using market forces. We have all the power.



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Wow. We beat a contract negotiated during the great recession and then further arbitrated. Real high hurdle.

 

Fact is It is pretty straight forward. I’ve read the TA. Two threeish times now. If you look at the comparison guide we are market rate.

We are deficient In a few areas. We are average in most areas.
Then we have some that are stellar.

Those are the facts. You choose to harp on the deficiencies. That’s fine. I added up my pros and cons. Some I can live with others I reall don’t like. But there’s nothing I can’t live with for 3-5yrs.

We can send it back. Fight tooth and nail for top tier everything. I think it’s a fools errand. You waste time mostly and resources. Personally I care less about the money and more about the time. You can’t get time back.

I’m not willing to lose another year or more to the DR for what may get improved. I like the majority of what is in the TA not all of it. I’ll hold my nose to the rates and cola. But in the end we have to start some where. If that’s not reasonable, I’m not sure what is. I’m ready for improvements to QOL as fast as it can be implemented.

You fight on buddy. I did my decade, I’m ready for a break. I’m ready for actual improvements. I’m ready to have real scope. I’m ready for contractual obligation.

Read my posts from 2008 till now. I’ve always fought for better. This TA makes life for jb pilots better imo, and it’s far better than the alternative.

 

Didn’t they just sign a new CBA last year?

 

This. 1 million times this.

Also, you are spot on when you say sending it back is a fools errand.

 

...Totally absurd, for many reasons / definitely not a word I'd be throwing around like that.

 

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Are you serious? Their contract was arbitrated. Do you know what that means?

 

Yes I will.