This TA smells like a Bowel MoveMINT

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Quote: Good, I couldn't remember if there was a max, and apparently neither did cool.
True story👍🏼
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Quote: I love how we’re bottom feeders because we don’t have the BIGGEST hourly rate...

What are you willing to give up for 1% cola and $5/hr?

Scope?
ADG?
Vacation distribution?
Bid divisor smoothing?
Those last three are huge staffing drivers BTW.

We know for sure implementation will not be sped up.

How do you propose we get industry leading in every section in our first TA?
Nearly every RSA is covered. Guys SET in the snow in BOS. THE VDA blue hero squad runs around saving the bluthesphere at every turn.

What’s your perfect TA POG?

For me 11yr pay 2% COLA to 3% is $161/month.

Imo. Never gonna get back what’s lost in time.
False choices. We need to fight until we get a full market rate contract, including work rules AND compensation.

We are bottom feeders by definition since we will be voting yes to bottom of the barrel compensation on DAY 1.
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Quote: False choices. We need to fight until we get a full market rate contract, including work rules AND compensation.

We are bottom feeders by definition since we will be voting yes to bottom of the barrel compensation on DAY 1.
That’s false. Actually, day one we’ll be better off than many of our peers in many areas. Worse here better there.

What’s your perfect TA?
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Quote: That’s false. Actually, day one we’ll be better off than many of our peers in many areas. Worse here better there.

What’s your perfect TA?
A market rate one. In every section. Think of all the sub standard sections in this TA, then fix them. That is my perfect TA.
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Quote: That’s false. Actually, day one we’ll be better off than many of our peers in many areas. Worse here better there.

What’s your perfect TA?
Plenty of "no voters" who I consider friends. All are smart, intelligent, and are good people trying to do what's best for their family.

None of those people refered to the collective JetBlue pilot group as "wannabe scabs." Like POG did.

Look. We are all on the same side. We support the union and want to be compensated well for what we do.

POG and Queue want Delta +1 in every section or they will vote no. IMHO people like Queue and POG confuse industry standard for industry leading.
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Quote: Plenty of "no voters" who I consider friends. All are smart, intelligent, and are good people trying to do what's best for their family.

None of those people refered to the collective JetBlue pilot group as "wannabe scabs." Like POG did.

Look. We are all on the same side. We support the union and want to be compensated well for what we do.

POG and Queue want Delta +1 in every section or they will vote no. IMHO people like Queue and POG confuse industry standard for industry leading.
I respectfully disagree when it comes to Queue. Some of his posts could give the impression that he's a fanatic but if you read all of his posts, the enthusiasm stems from well thought out positions and his more colorful posts are, at least in part, a reaction to the barrage from fanatics on the "other side". We could start a chorus of "he started it!". You see a lot of emotions on both sides lately. (I know we are all, well most, actually on the same side.) He, like me, wants some key changes before voting yes but I don't think he wants Delta +1. I guess we'll see what he says.
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Quote: Plenty of "no voters" who I consider friends. All are smart, intelligent, and are good people trying to do what's best for their family.

None of those people refered to the collective JetBlue pilot group as "wannabe scabs." Like POG did.

Look. We are all on the same side. We support the union and want to be compensated well for what we do.

POG and Queue want Delta +1 in every section or they will vote no. IMHO people like Queue and POG confuse industry standard for industry leading.
I never said all pilots at jetblue are wanna be scabs.

The bottom feeders, happy to work for less and bring down the profession types are wanna be scabs. If you feel that describes you, well, #sorrynotsorry.

We happen to have a large group of them hense us even talking about this obviously terrible TA passing after 6 months of labor dispute and 1 picket.
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Quote: I never said all pilots at jetblue are wanna be scabs.

The bottom feeders, happy to work for less and bring down the profession types are wanna be scabs. If you feel that describes you, well, #sorrynotsorry.

We happen to have a large group of them hense us even talking about this obviously terrible TA passing after 6 months of labor dispute and 1 picket.
So if this T/A passes, the majority of the pilot group would be willing to cross a picket line....do I have that correct? Such a bold statement, you almost have to respect it.
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Quote: So if this T/A passes, the majority of the pilot group would be willing to cross a picket line....do I have that correct? Such a bold statement, you almost have to respect it.
No, a lot of yes voters I have flown with have literally no idea what they are voting on. They watched the videos, which minimize or don't even mention all the really bad sections of the TA. When I point out all the things B6ALPA is trying to sneak through I usually get a look of shock and a "******* that I am voting NO!"

Then there is the guy worried that we are leaving money behind by voting no. He is usually convinced that B6ALPA gave up all our leverage and now we are defeated. He would fight, but believes this group would just crumble and accept less. I don't completely disagree with him. We have a lot of wanna be scabs here.

If you are happy voting yes, KNOWING this contract is sub par, bringing down all of our peers at the bargaining table because of some small gains from where we sit now, yes you are a wanna be scab. You are doing the same work as a scab would be doing, undermining the piloting profession out of greed.
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Quote: No, a lot of yes voters I have flown with have literally no idea what they are voting on. They watched the videos, which minimize or don't even mention all the really bad sections of the TA. When I point out all the things B6ALPA is trying to sneak through I usually get a look of shock and a "******* that I am voting NO!"

Then there is the guy worried that we are leaving money behind by voting no. He is usually convinced that B6ALPA gave up all our leverage and now we are defeated. He would fight, but believes this group would just crumble and accept less. I don't completely disagree with him. We have a lot of wanna be scabs here.

If you are happy voting yes, KNOWING this contract is sub par, bringing down all of our peers at the bargaining table because of some small gains from where we sit now, yes you are a wanna be scab. You are doing the same work as a scab would be doing, undermining the piloting profession out of greed.
So- the YES voter is acting in "greed"? Using that logic, you are admitting that it is a greatly beneficial T/A. I thought this was a "terrible T/A"?
Isnt the greedy action to vote NO and hold out for more Pog?
3%/Profit Sharing/Cheaper Health Care/more PTO/ Bonus?
Or did you mean instant gratification? Greed is good.

I do think its wonderful that you care so much for your peers and the industry, in general though.
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