JB realistic London expansion
01-04-2019, 06:41 AM
#111
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,886
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Why limit yourself? Alaska and Southwest are big on the west coast and could provide much more feed. Or forget the feed all together and just position Moxy as a buyout candidate for Alaska or Southwest (and Jetblue) to gobble up. 3 way bidding war, maybe more if the legacies show interest in the A220.
Cheap planes, young pilots, no hassle buyout. Neeleman gets richer.
Cheap planes, young pilots, no hassle buyout. Neeleman gets richer.
We aren't doing this for feed for us so much as a way to start a West coast network that has all the advantages stated above. Without helping or strengthening Alaska. SWA pilots contract wouldn't allow what you said anyway.
And Neeleman still gets richer, and maybe even returns to JB one way or another.
01-04-2019, 06:46 AM
#112
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Left,Right, Left, Right,Right,Left, Right, Left
Posts: 3,150
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
We are a staffing mess from the standpoint of e190 training. They already have more e190 training backlog then they have resources to handle it, no contingency plan, and no way to open up additional A320 positions without creating even more e190 training events!
And RSAs everyday with crew cancellations, on GOOD WEATHER DAYS!
Not sure why you are arguing this with me? Can you honestly not see the above?
And RSAs everyday with crew cancellations, on GOOD WEATHER DAYS!
Not sure why you are arguing this with me? Can you honestly not see the above?
01-04-2019, 06:46 AM
#113
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
We are a staffing mess from the standpoint of e190 training. They already have more e190 training backlog then they have resources to handle it, no contingency plan, and no way to open up additional A320 positions without creating even more e190 training events!
And RSAs everyday with crew cancellations, on GOOD WEATHER DAYS!
Not sure why you are arguing this with me? Can you honestly not see the above?
And RSAs everyday with crew cancellations, on GOOD WEATHER DAYS!
Not sure why you are arguing this with me? Can you honestly not see the above?
But I do agree even hyerboy does they have a training mess on their hands.
01-04-2019, 06:48 AM
#114
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 988
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Because I think this is JB's west coast plan. Use this "codeshare partner" to start a West coast network with costs so low we couldn't do it and the competition can't compete with it. Then after the network is developed we eventually aquire Moxy (like we tried to do with Virgin and Frontier). All pre-planned and pre-ordained with Neeleman who doesn't seem to have a bad relationship with Robbing or Joel Peterson.
We aren't doing this for feed for us so much as a way to start a West coast network that has all the advantages stated above. Without helping or strengthening Alaska. SWA pilots contract wouldn't allow what you said anyway.
And Neeleman still gets richer, and maybe even returns to JB one way or another.
We aren't doing this for feed for us so much as a way to start a West coast network that has all the advantages stated above. Without helping or strengthening Alaska. SWA pilots contract wouldn't allow what you said anyway.
And Neeleman still gets richer, and maybe even returns to JB one way or another.
01-04-2019, 06:52 AM
#115
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,122
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
How does our Scope clause limit code sharing with them? Everyone keeps telling me how awesome our Scope is. Maybe as good as our industry leading pairing construction language, eh?
01-04-2019, 07:04 AM
#116
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,445
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
How does our Scope clause limit code sharing with them? Everyone keeps telling me how awesome our Scope is. Maybe as good as our industry leading pairing construction language, eh?
01-04-2019, 07:19 AM
#117
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Posts: 3,150
Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Unlimited code sharing. It's good protection.
section CBA 1F
It's gonna happen. In fact a company without an operating certificate or planes currently will soon fly all our west coast operations.
01-04-2019, 10:20 AM
#119
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,886
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Honestly yes I see it, but there's zero evidence of differals of any aircraft at this point.
I have been predicting additional Airbus deferrals, you say no. I guess we'll find out.
01-04-2019, 10:22 AM
#120
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,886
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
How does our Scope clause limit code sharing with them? Everyone keeps telling me how awesome our Scope is. Maybe as good as our industry leading pairing construction language, eh?
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