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Old 05-07-2019, 08:56 AM
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People do standup PA’s still?
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Old 05-07-2019, 08:45 PM
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They want you to do everything. Clean the jet. Grab customers luggage from anywhere they leave it. Make a stand up comedy routine but not too sharp. Make it warm and inviting. Don’t worry they’ll watch it on Facebook or YouTube. They want you to update your defendants and travel companions, so they don’t have to take the time and man power. And if you don’t you will lose your travel privileges. They want you to extend your far 117 day to the max everyday. They want you to waive the contract so you can keep working. Do you think if there’s something that happens after you’ve waived these protections that they’ll be there to help you? You know the answer.

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Never once have I been asked to waive the contract to keep working. Never once have I been asked to extend to the FAR 117 max duty day. You must be very unlucky at your job. Don't waste your money on a lotto ticket.
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Old 05-08-2019, 02:42 AM
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Never once have I been asked to waive the contract to keep working. Never once have I been asked to extend to the FAR 117 max duty day. You must be very unlucky at your job. Don't waste your money on a lotto ticket.
You must be very lucky....
Don’t actually fly.
Or haven’t been here long enough to enjoy a hot summer.
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Old 05-08-2019, 08:05 AM
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Never once have I been asked to waive the contract to keep working. Never once have I been asked to extend to the FAR 117 max duty day. You must be very unlucky at your job. Don't waste your money on a lotto ticket.
Please 360. You must have Cush trips. I’ve been asked twice in the last 30 days to waive the CBA. I can PM you the screenshot of the ACARS.

Have you ever had the AO tell you that by not taking an extension past a 14 hour duty day “you’re going to ruin everything?”

Have you ever made a stand up PA because the AO is waffling and the customers are freaking out because jetcrew keeps updating them on departure times? Then, when the flight cancels the customers make underhanded comments to you and even get up into your face because now you’re the reason they’re experiencing JetBlue’s operational failure?

Have you ever sent an ACARS dispatch because you can’t get through to crew services to tell MOT that you’re going to time out because the taxi line is 1 hour, with absolutely zero response??????

Unlucky? Hardly. I’ve been abused beyond a reasonable doubt by an operation that lacks clarity and certainty integrity. I’ve been disrespected as an employee and more importantly as a professional pilot.

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Old 05-08-2019, 08:08 AM
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Never once have I been asked to waive the contract to keep working. Never once have I been asked to extend to the FAR 117 max duty day. You must be very unlucky at your job. Don't waste your money on a lotto ticket.


I was literally asked to wave the contract 14 hours Duty, 3 days ago. Now I wish I would’ve printed the ACARS just to show everyone how wrong you are AGAIN.

Of course they begged. “We will have to cancel. We don’t have anyone else.”

Funny they managed to find somebody when I said no. They changed me to a DH and we pushed 2 hours late even though they knew about my timing out several hours before and instead just counted on me extending.

Please people stop waiving the contract. It’s obvious they are getting guys to wave it because they were counting on me saying yes.

Third time I have been asked to wave the contract 14 hours in the last 6 months.


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Old 05-08-2019, 08:29 AM
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They probably know 360 will help out no matter what so they just say please instead of saying will you break the contract.
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Old 05-08-2019, 08:44 AM
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I was literally asked to wave the contract 14 hours Duty, 3 days ago. Now I wish I would’ve printed the ACARS just to show everyone how wrong you are AGAIN.

Of course they begged. “We will have to cancel. We don’t have anyone else.”

Funny they managed to find somebody when I said no. They changed me to a DH and we pushed 2 hours late even though they knew about my timing out several hours before and instead just counted on me extending.

Please people stop waiving the contract. It’s obvious they are getting guys to wave it because they were counting on me saying yes.

Third time I have been asked to wave the contract 14 hours in the last 6 months.


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Had a guy come running to one of my time out events saying:

“Can you believe this!?!? I was putting on my swim trunks at the hotel and crew services called with double time pay to operate this to DC!!! And guess what??? They’re going to DH me to PBI tomorrow for a 24 hour sit and it’s all premium cash!!!”

Thanks Captain Douche!

There’s always someone to help the suck continue. Don’t be that guy.

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Old 05-08-2019, 08:47 AM
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They probably know 360 will help out no matter what so they just say please instead of saying will you break the contract.
Some people just don't understand the value of traditions.... (Puke) Or contracts. Or duty limits. Or compensation. Or profit sharing.
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Some people just don't understand the value of traditions.... (Puke) Or contracts. Or duty limits. Or compensation. Or profit sharing.





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Old 05-08-2019, 09:01 AM
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Since we are on the subject.

Do the CA’s on this board listen to your FO’s when it comes to extending? I’m 99.9% no when it comes to extending (unless I’m the last flight out before a hurricane, etc). However, since I’m an FO it’s not my choice. It’s CA’s discretion and if I don’t like it I can Fatigue out.

I’ve noticed several captains not pay
attention to the suggestions of the FO’s (myself included) when making their choice. Maybe some CRM is in order? Maybe we can make this a crew decision vs a unilateral decision?

Am I off base? Thoughts?
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