321 xlr
06-17-2019, 10:29 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
It’s going to be funny when United starts flying over the pond in them and that United poster comes back over talking about how silly it is to fly the tracks in a narrow body.
06-17-2019, 10:42 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Nah, Airbus just announced they are gonna build it. Now it's time for JB to pick 4 gate agents, to meet biannually, being paid with only a culture-pizza stipend, to discuss the viability of someday forming an informal spitball session on the merits of XLR service to Namibia, the SDQ of Africa.
The results of their work would then be sent to the "ELT" who will make a strong commitment to making a preliminary decision within 48 additional months time, followed then by placing an order and securing the remaining 2032 delivery slots.
The results of their work would then be sent to the "ELT" who will make a strong commitment to making a preliminary decision within 48 additional months time, followed then by placing an order and securing the remaining 2032 delivery slots.
Ah yes, the perennial JB “2 yrs”. I’ve been 2 years away from LGB captain for 6 yrs.
06-17-2019, 10:42 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Yes correct.
I think we see it the same way. Start with “close” Europe and the LRs and move into the xlr for other Europe.
Just like we converted the 320s to 321s to 321lrs soon 321xlrs
I don’t think it will change the airframe count just the type of 321
I think we see it the same way. Start with “close” Europe and the LRs and move into the xlr for other Europe.
Just like we converted the 320s to 321s to 321lrs soon 321xlrs
I don’t think it will change the airframe count just the type of 321
06-17-2019, 10:44 AM
#24
The REAL Bluedriver
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Yes correct.
I think we see it the same way. Start with “close” Europe and the LRs and move into the xlr for other Europe.
Just like we converted the 320s to 321s to 321lrs soon 321xlrs
I don’t think it will change the airframe count just the type of 321
I think we see it the same way. Start with “close” Europe and the LRs and move into the xlr for other Europe.
Just like we converted the 320s to 321s to 321lrs soon 321xlrs
I don’t think it will change the airframe count just the type of 321
06-17-2019, 10:50 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by ParrotBay031
The XLR launch date is sometime in 2023 which really means 2024. I also saw in an article it saying that they wanted these airplanes to be new orders not rollover or exchange orders because of the funding for the R&D for the program. So my guess is we will place an order for these as the launch customer, how it was tied into the a220 deal. I think they have known about this for a while, and why we are doing europe in a 3 step process. LR for London/Ireland to start seeing how successful it is, XLR for Germany, France, Italy and if all is successful an eventual wide body 330 order to go into deep Europe to places like Greece, Sweeden, Finland, Maybe Israel and also using these planes to go into deep south america and maybe even Hawaii.
With that said, JB has reached the point of it's existing order books that they NEED an additional order on the books or they will risk a delivery gap at the end of this current NEO order as Airbus deliveries are now full for many years.
Even with that being the case, if they place an aircraft order along with the XLR (assuming it happens), you will likely see the XLRs as a CONVERSION of the existing order (for better delivery slots) and an incremental order for deliveries after the existing NEO order.
06-17-2019, 10:56 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by ParrotBay031
The XLR launch date is sometime in 2023 which really means 2024. I also saw in an article it saying that they wanted these airplanes to be new orders not rollover or exchange orders because of the funding for the R&D for the program. So my guess is we will place an order for these as the launch customer, how it was tied into the a220 deal. I think they have known about this for a while, and why we are doing europe in a 3 step process. LR for London/Ireland to start seeing how successful it is, XLR for Germany, France, Italy and if all is successful an eventual wide body 330 order to go into deep Europe to places like Greece, Sweeden, Finland, Maybe Israel and also using these planes to go into deep south america and maybe even Hawaii.
06-17-2019, 11:04 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer
I believe the launch customer (MEA) has already been announced.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-f...-idUSKCN1TE2QJ
06-17-2019, 11:24 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by lowcountryflyer
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