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Tiquillo 09-04-2019 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 2881609)
Results for 2020 System Bid. Roughly 4000 pilots total at bid opening

JFK 320 CA #3196
BOS 320 CA #2768
FLL 320 CA #2386
LGB 320 CA #1508
MCO 320 CA #1394

BOS 190 CA #3203
JFK 190 CA #3349
MCO 190 CA #2211

BOS 320 FO #3891
FLL 320 FO #3997
JFK 320 FO #3991
LGB 320 FO #3952
MCO 320 FO #3552

BOS 190 FO #3737
MCO 190 FO #3967
JFK 190 FO #3858

Would you mind sharing what was the DOH of the MCO 190 FO #3967...?
When would this be effective? I’m trying to determine how long is it currently taking to hold MCO.
Thanks for the info!

AYLflyer 09-04-2019 11:16 PM

I'm trying to read the results now and can I just say, this is a horrible, horrible system.

jamesholzhauer 09-04-2019 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by Tiquillo (Post 2881656)
Would you mind sharing what was the DOH of the MCO 190 FO #3967...?
When would this be effective? I’m trying to determine how long is it currently taking to hold MCO.
Thanks for the info!

Hired 7/10/2019. Transfer date 8/31/2020.

jamesholzhauer 09-04-2019 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 2881666)
I'm trying to read the results now and can I just say, this is a horrible, horrible system.

I put it all in a spreadsheet (exporting the PDF they sent out to excel) and deleted the “current position” rows. Much easier to look at that way. But yeah...this is not awesome.

Bgood 09-05-2019 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 2881609)
Results for 2020 System Bid. Roughly 4000 pilots total at bid opening

JFK 320 CA #3196
BOS 320 CA #2768
FLL 320 CA #2386
LGB 320 CA #1508
MCO 320 CA #1394

BOS 190 CA #3203
JFK 190 CA #3349
MCO 190 CA #2211

BOS 320 FO #3891
FLL 320 FO #3997
JFK 320 FO #3991
LGB 320 FO #3952
MCO 320 FO #3552

BOS 190 FO #3737
MCO 190 FO #3967
JFK 190 FO #3858

Interesting, FLL was a year to 1.5 yrs to hold
Now it's the base with the most junior FO in the system bid, I like. Is FLL still being offered to Newhires?

hyperboy 09-05-2019 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer (Post 2881669)
I put it all in a spreadsheet (exporting the PDF they sent out to excel) and deleted the “current position” rows. Much easier to look at that way. But yeah...this is not awesome.

Wish I knew how to do this........lol

Whipper33 09-05-2019 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Bgood (Post 2881682)
Interesting, FLL was a year to 1.5 yrs to hold
Now it's the base with the most junior FO in the system bid, I like. Is FLL still being offered to Newhires?

I believe those numbers only show the junior most bidder who participated in the system bid. So I don’t think we can look at it like a traditional seniority table. For example, all 190 bases have #3900s in them and generally remain more junior than the bus. No major inflows occurred at JFK/BOS 190, but a ~#3700 wanted a change and slid in... (making it appear senior) MCO 190 is desired so several junior folks jumped on the chance, dropping the # to 3900s.

FLL on the bus is just under the one year mark as most individuals got the transfer date of 06/20 with most junior DOH being 7/19. Of course there are still the one or two slots that may go to new-hires. So while less it did get less senior.... I don’t believe it’s the most junior base in the system.

Hope that provides clarity and doesn’t muddy the waters even more.

jtrain609 09-05-2019 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Whipper33 (Post 2881772)
I believe those numbers only show the junior most bidder who participated in the system bid. So I don’t think we can look at it like a traditional seniority table. For example, all 190 bases have #3900s in them and generally remain more junior than the bus. No major inflows occurred at JFK/BOS 190, but a ~#3700 wanted a change and slid in... (making it appear senior) MCO 190 is desired so several junior folks jumped on the chance, dropping the # to 3900s.

FLL on the bus is just under the one year mark as most individuals got the transfer date of 06/20 with most junior DOH being 7/19. Of course there are still the one or two slots that may go to new-hires. So while less it did get less senior.... I don’t believe it’s the most junior base in the system.

Hope that provides clarity and doesn’t muddy the waters even more.

There are unfilled FLL positions after the bid. FLL will go to new hires.

goose15 09-05-2019 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by jtrain609 (Post 2881796)
There are unfilled FLL positions after the bid. FLL will go to new hires.

While I agree they will be offered to new hires, the vacancy spots for FLL are not until the 06/01 effective date or later. They most likely won’t offer to new hires until later into 2020 or they could and then send you to JFK/BOS until your transfer date.

All in all, as it was mentioned earlier, FLL is not the most junior base and can be held in less than 1 year.

jamesholzhauer 09-05-2019 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by goose15 (Post 2881798)
While I agree they will be offered to new hires, the vacancy spots for FLL are not until the 06/01 effective date or later. They most likely won’t offer to new hires until later into 2020 or they could and then send you to JFK/BOS until your transfer date.

All in all, as it was mentioned earlier, FLL is not the most junior base and can be held in less than 1 year.

Have all the FLL vacancies from the last quarterly bid been filled yet?


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