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PotatoChip 06-30-2019 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by localizer (Post 2845597)
Calm down. I prepare for everything to the max extent. Us outsiders don’t know what we are walking into here.

You’re walking into a 121 AQP training program that is relaxed and prepares you well for each section.
So, yeah, calm down. If you’re this wound up you will not fit in.

stanherman 06-30-2019 01:55 PM

By the time I was done with training I was a foosball master. Pretty much all I did was have some beers and hold down the foosball table in the lobby.

No spinning, just wicked pullshot technique

IrishNJ 06-30-2019 05:01 PM

My 2 cents.

Unlike what you might be used to in the regionals; at JB systems is an absolute breeze. As is Indoc/FOM stuff. Don't worry about them.

The only bit that I found a little bit of a challenge as a newhire were the Procedures. Before you hit the the 2nd week of FTDs (the P's) you need to learn the flows - they expect you to know the precise order of button pushing and what you are looking for. Prevously, my experience was that as long as it gets done, who cares how you got there. Not at JB, they're pretty anal about it.

All you need to do is spend a few solid hours with your sim partner at the paper tiger making sure you know them and checking one another.

pilotpayne 07-01-2019 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by IrishNJ (Post 2845807)
My 2 cents.

Unlike what you might be used to in the regionals; at JB systems is an absolute breeze. As is Indoc/FOM stuff. Don't worry about them.

The only bit that I found a little bit of a challenge as a newhire were the Procedures. Before you hit the the 2nd week of FTDs (the P's) you need to learn the flows - they expect you to know the precise order of button pushing and what you are looking for. Prevously, my experience was that as long as it gets done, who cares how you got there. Not at JB, they're pretty anal about it.

All you need to do is spend a few solid hours with your sim partner at the paper tiger making sure you know them and checking one another.


What this guy said.

FYI you don’t want to be the “know it all guy” it’s not appreciated down there. Just relax know your flows and calls and you will be fine. The seem to value a good attitude above all.

Bluedriver 07-01-2019 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2845925)
What this guy said.

FYI you ***don’t want to be the “know it all guy” it’s not appreciated*** down there. Just relax know your flows and calls and you will be fine. The seem to value a good attitude above all.

Sounds like a good story, learned from experience haha?

pilotpayne 07-01-2019 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2845949)
Sounds like a good story, learned from experience haha?

Lol you got the wrong guy. I’m a slacker when it comes to training just know my calls and procedures and which letter they are using for the spv and I call it a day.

But yes during my last training event watched a new hire go on about how many times a light would flash or something like that as the instructor was like WTF.

CaptCoolHand 07-01-2019 06:47 AM

Don’t forget your E6b and lots of pencils.
Highlighters are good too with multiple colors so you can highlight SOPs in the books.
Your may want to invest in a new computer too. You can load flight sim on there and practice JFK- (any Florida airport).
When it comes to IOE you’d be smart to just stay up all night for about a month and only nap for one or two hours during the day. You’ll get your body on then right rhythm that way. Circadian flips can be nasty. Plan ahead.
When class is coming to and end make sure you have at least two questions to ask. You should be taking notes with your pencils. The instructor will appreciate your attention to detail. You’ll be noticed by management as a go getter and quickly be thrusted up the seniority list as an accelerated pace. You’ll also be helping your classmates. First by going over something they likely missed and second keeping them away from that bar in the lodge. You should be studying 3-5 hours a night to be prepared for the next days lesson.

Good luck. It’s a rigorously difficult course. Especially the 190.

Bluedriver 07-01-2019 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2845966)
Don’t forget your E6b and lots of pencils.
Highlighters are good too with multiple colors so you can highlight SOPs in the books.
Your may want to invest in a new computer too. You can load flight sim on there and practice JFK- (any Florida airport).
When it comes to IOE you’d be smart to just stay up all night for about a month and only nap for one or two hours during the day. You’ll get your body on then right rhythm that way. Circadian flips can be nasty. Plan ahead.
When class is coming to and end make sure you have at least two questions to ask. You should be taking notes with your pencils. The instructor will appreciate your attention to detail. You’ll be noticed by management as a go getter and quickly be thrusted up the seniority list as an accelerated pace. You’ll also be helping your classmates. First by going over something they likely missed and second keeping them away from that bar in the lodge. You should be studying 3-5 hours a night to be prepared for the next days lesson.

Good luck. It’s a rigorously difficult course. Especially the 190.

This will probably get you started. It's a little lite on the studying and memorizing, but should get you at least a 70% or better.

I would just add that you should also memorize the FCOM manuals, all volumes and memorize the QRH. Some say you should also make flash cards with all the OPS-SPECS, but I think you could/might pass without doing that.

Bluedriver 07-01-2019 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2845955)
Lol you got the wrong guy. I’m a slacker when it comes to training just know my calls and procedures and which letter they are using for the spv and I call it a day.

But yes during my last training event watched a new hire go on about how many times a light would flash or something like that as the instructor was like WTF.

Was hoping it was you!

CaptCoolHand 07-02-2019 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2846205)
This will probably get you started. It's a little lite on the studying and memorizing, but should get you at least a 70% or better.

I would just add that you should also memorize the FCOM manuals, all volumes and memorize the QRH. Some say you should also make flash cards with all the OPS-SPECS, but I think you could/might pass without doing that.

The OSV (opsspec validation) is no longer multiple choice. Just a heads up. The POI didn’t like all the gouge floating around.


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