feltf4

I’m so mad too. Within the hour it was out, I booked a $30,000 (w night) boat in Bali for my 2 year olds half birthday. Plus I bought him a first class ticket. Wonder if I’ll be able to get my money back

aldonite7667

I took a snapshot of mine too. If it isn’t identical I will file a grievance.

feltf4

So wait, the company released the vacation bid... some junior people got some good vacations and vacations that apparently they shouldn’t have received. Company says, whoops we (and our business partner) screwed up. We have to remedy this.... they retract the bid and then re run it again making it right.

Soooooooo now some junior people are going to grieve because they didn’t get the July vacation that they originally had and shouldn’t have got based on seniorty.

It’s not like the most junior guy took 2 weeks of summer vacation and the most senior person got October and THEN the company is like to bad so sad... leaving that senior guy high and dry...

It’s pretty cut and dry... they screwed it up. And now they are taking it back and making it right... wtf is ALPA going to do grieving it, besides waste time and resources.

CaptCoolHand

Yea I had two November’s not over (the fourth Thursday). Now I’ve got thanksgiving and a week in August.

Of course it’s -26.5 hrs since i haven’t earned any vacation this year so that should be fun.

BunkerF16

So there's a trip in open time and you pick it up. It's on your schedule. Company comes back and says, oops...sorry, that pairing was suppose to go to a reserve and not go into open time. Our bad.

Would you grieve it?

AA had something like 96% of pilots get awarded vacation over Christmas a few years ago. An obvious mistake. Should the company just have rescinded it and re-run it with no benefit to the pilots who were awarded that vacation (whether they should have received it or not). BTW, AA pilots were able to get the company back to the table outside of the negotiating window to achieve gains because of this mistake.

But I'm sure 74% of the JB pilots will be fine just letting them resend the new bid without any consequences.

CaptCoolHand

Ah a good point... followed by throwing 3/4 of the group under the bus. Very productive.

I sure wish we’d have voted no. We wouldn’t have any of these problems... yet.

BunkerF16

Not throwing anyone under the bus. But we do have a special group of pilots at JB. Many willing to continue to allow JB to operate with impunity not wanting to rock the boat with that “let’s just give em one more chance” attitude.

I’m tired of it.

BlueJetDork

“Taking it back”?

They cancelled the award. If the section is active then there is a process for canceling an award.

I would expect ALPA to enforce the contract when blueJet ignores it.

feltf4

Can you please post the section for “canceling” an award?

Because I don’t see it in sections 7...

I’m not defending the actions. However I think there much better things to waste grieving time on versus an award that vilotated section 7.B.1.a which seems to be fixed.

likeitis

You grieve everything, period EOS. I’ve seen it personally. Something you may think isn’t right but needs to be looked at further becomes a huge deal. How often do you think the company see’s violations by themselves where they are holding their breathe hoping we don’t see them. Every f’ing day. Wait for the companies reaction. Grievances are pretty much negotiations at times.