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jamesholzhauer 10-11-2019 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by contrails12 (Post 2902464)
Look, if the numbers are hard for you there are people who can help

Plenty of people are not making as much under the CBA as they were pre CBA. 190 CAs who sold back PTO for example. Or super senior bus FOs in many cases.

BunkerF16 10-11-2019 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by contrails12 (Post 2902464)
Look, if the numbers are hard for you there are people who can help

I guess you not answering my question IS my answer. The fact you can be a smarta$$ with people who are taking pay cuts and working more each month speaks volumes of your character. And maturity. Don't worry, you'll understand one day.

contrails12 10-11-2019 06:36 PM

I posted in response to a person saying that RJ scope was the centerpiece of the CBA. I differ.

I bet if you found the difference between pre CBA pilot CASM and CBA amendable date CASM the difference (delta for you boners) is around 30%

contrails12 10-11-2019 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer (Post 2902467)
Plenty of people are not making as much under the CBA as they were pre CBA. 190 CAs who sold back PTO for example. Or super senior bus FOs in many cases.

That person can enjoy a huge relative seniority windfall or a transition windfall because of the CBA either way they win to the tune of about 30%

contrails12 10-11-2019 06:42 PM

BTW “bunker” if we are being childish...I’m not a “cape air kid” But I bet they can fly circles around you in the plane and in regards to union experience

BunkerF16 10-11-2019 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by contrails12 (Post 2902488)
BTW “bunker” if we are being childish...I’m not a “cape air kid” But I bet they can fly circles around you in the plane and in regards to union experience


Not being childish. Just making an observation of your ignorance. Tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. I was obviously wrong to do so.

jamesholzhauer 10-11-2019 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by contrails12 (Post 2902488)
BTW “bunker” if we are being childish...I’m not a “cape air kid” But I bet they can fly circles around you in the plane and in regards to union experience

A guy with a few years flying a 402 can fly circles around a retired viper pilot in an airbus. Lol. Are you really going there? And what union experience does a Cape guy have that a 15 year JB pilot wouldn’t have?

contrails12 10-11-2019 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by BunkerF16 (Post 2902494)
Not being childish. Just making an observation of your ignorance. Tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. I was obviously wrong to do so.

My observation is that you cannot do addition. Another observation I have is that you do not recognize the assets that we have in the pilot group because of some type of bias.

contrails12 10-11-2019 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer (Post 2902496)
A guy with a few years flying a 402 can fly circles around a retired viper pilot in an airbus. Lol. Are you really going there? And what union experience does a Cape guy have that a 15 year JB pilot wouldn’t have?

When’s the last time said pilot flew an no kidding NDB approach, non radar, without the aid of GPS, FM, IRS, moving map, circle to land at minimums with a 30 Kt tailwind in a broke down airplane loaded up with ice and a passenger sitting next to them asking: “am I going to make my connection?”

And by the way, cape air has been union longer than jetblue

BlueJetDork 10-11-2019 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by contrails12 (Post 2902364)
And here I thought the center piece was a roughly 30% pay increase and all the bells and whistles associated with an enforceable CBA

That leaves us near the bottom.

Winning!

We had an enforceable agreements when the company and ALPA executed the dispute LOA a few weeks after certification.

Nice try though!!!


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