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Old 02-18-2020 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by goose15
As a RSV pilot, you should check the DRO, as that is your official assignment for the following day. JetCrew only relies on whatever input CS put on CrewTrac (Master Schedule) and believe it or not, they make mistakes and sometimes things don’t match.

I’ve had different RAP start times while doing SCL, as well as trips assigned to me while in SCR/LCR, that were supposed to be assigned to someone else. All I had to do was to call them and they either corrected by matching whatever was published on the DRO or dropped the trip from my schedule.

I get it that it’s easy to just acknowledge whatever comes your way on JetCrew and go on with life. But if you have time to post on here, you should have the 30 seconds to open the DRO too. We all should put a little bit of effort and hold the company accountable. It’s as simple as that.
Sorry, I respectfully disagree. The CBA clearly states the source for all assignments is the JetCrew app or its equivalent.
There is no reason one is required to check the DRO anymore. If the company screws up the JC notification, that’s their problem, not mine.
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Old 02-18-2020 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by goose15
As a RSV pilot, you should check the DRO, as that is your official assignment for the following day. JetCrew only relies on whatever input CS put on CrewTrac (Master Schedule) and believe it or not, they make mistakes and sometimes things don’t match.

I’ve had different RAP start times while doing SCL, as well as trips assigned to me while in SCR/LCR, that were supposed to be assigned to someone else. All I had to do was to call them and they either corrected by matching whatever was published on the DRO or dropped the trip from my schedule.

I get it that it’s easy to just acknowledge whatever comes your way on JetCrew and go on with life. But if you have time to post on here, you should have the 30 seconds to open the DRO too. We all should put a little bit of effort and hold the company accountable. It’s as simple as that.
But, but, but, he loves his job. And if he did that they may have to split the trip or call a VDA. Can't let that happen.
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Old 02-18-2020 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Sorry, I respectfully disagree. The CBA clearly states the source for all assignments is the JetCrew app or its equivalent.
There is no reason one is required to check the DRO anymore. If the company screws up the JC notification, that’s their problem, not mine.
25.R.2.a is the only section that applies to Next Day assignments. JETCRW is not mentioned there as a method of notification and stated the assignments will be posted on the DRO.

25.R.6.a is where the JETCRW notification is listed. This applies to pairing assignments. Nowhere does it states this is regarding SCL or LCR. Additionally, this is only regarding post-DRO assignments in my opinion since this is not included in the Next Day section above.

Yes, CS might do both DRO and JETCRW for a next day assignment but what happens if they forget to send the JETCRW? You’re still on the hook for the trip and it is your responsibility to be there. Good luck explaining why you didn’t check the DRO.
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Old 02-18-2020 | 06:06 AM
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Don’t have the contract in front of me, but I’ll reply when I do. That said, there is literally nowhere that states you need to check the DRO.
How do I know? I’ve already been through this. Wasn’t posted to my JC, was in the DRO. I never saw it, filed a PDR, spoke with Scheduling Committee, I was told I was off the hook for the assignment and not required to check the DRO.
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Old 02-18-2020 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Sorry, I respectfully disagree. The CBA clearly states the source for all assignments is the JetCrew app or its equivalent.
There is no reason one is required to check the DRO anymore. If the company screws up the JC notification, that’s their problem, not mine.
You’re right, the CBA does states on 25.R.2.a.vii: “Each Pilot shall be notified of his individual DRO assignment via JetCrew or its equivalent.

However, my point is that the DRO is still published for everyone, so there is transparency in the system and we should all put a little bit of effort to make sure our assignments are correct. It’s not “required” but they make mistakes all the time and if we don’t policy ourselves, no one will.

I will gladly sit at home while you fly my trip though.
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Old 02-18-2020 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by goose15
You’re right, the CBA does states on 25.R.2.a.vii: “Each Pilot shall be notified of his individual DRO assignment via JetCrew or its equivalent.

However, my point is that the DRO is still published for everyone, so there is transparency in the system and we should all put a little bit of effort to make sure our assignments are correct. It’s not “required” but they make mistakes all the time and if we don’t policy ourselves, no one will.

I will gladly sit at home while you fly my trip though.
The transparency is definitely a good thing, on that I can certainly agree. From my experience, anytime there has been a problem with JetCrew versus the DRO, it has hurt the company more than it has hurt me.
personally, the only time I’ll check the DRO is if I am going to call them because I feel they did something wrong. That way I don’t look stupid when I call. Lol.
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Old 02-18-2020 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Don’t have the contract in front of me, but I’ll reply when I do. That said, there is literally nowhere that states you need to check the DRO.
How do I know? I’ve already been through this. Wasn’t posted to my JC, was in the DRO. I never saw it, filed a PDR, spoke with Scheduling Committee, I was told I was off the hook for the assignment and not required to check the DRO.
You may want to read the Dec 27th weekly update from the union. I personally don’t care what you do, but it seems to imply the opposite of what you’re saying. The biggest issue this discussion raises is how poorly written this CBA is. Hopefully the next one will be written more clearly.
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Old 02-18-2020 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by goose15
You’re right, the CBA does states on 25.R.2.a.vii: “Each Pilot shall be notified of his individual DRO assignment via JetCrew or its equivalent.

However, my point is that the DRO is still published for everyone, so there is transparency in the system and we should all put a little bit of effort to make sure our assignments are correct. It’s not “required” but they make mistakes all the time and if we don’t policy ourselves, no one will.

I will gladly sit at home while you fly my trip though.
1. No. 0.0
2. JETCREW is the standard and that is the way the Company wants it. Check the DRO if you want but it no longer controls. The FSM is dead.
3. Whatever JETCREW says IS the correct assignment.
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Old 02-18-2020 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by WhistlePig
1. No. 0.0
2. JETCREW is the standard and that is the way the Company wants it. Check the DRO if you want but it no longer controls. The FSM is dead.
3. Whatever JETCREW says IS the correct assignment.
This is how the contract reads, how it is being taught in ground school, and how the Crew Scheduling committee interpreted it when I discussed it with them.
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Old 02-18-2020 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by WhistlePig
1. No. 0.0
2. JETCREW is the standard and that is the way the Company wants it. Check the DRO if you want but it no longer controls. The FSM is dead.
3. Whatever JETCREW says IS the correct assignment.
I don’t have JETCRW on my personal devices and my company iPad isn’t accessible when I am at home. JETCRW may be the way the company wants it to be, but it isn’t a requirement. If something important happens in my schedule CS will call and make positive contact. Otherwise I check the DRO for next day assignments and go from there.

Ask yourself why the DRO is published at all?
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