JetBlue Pilot Hiring in 2020 & Beyond
12-31-2019, 08:08 AM
#22
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With the company and product that JB is I just dont see how they didnt expand into ORD ( frontier and spirit did it ) or even take a stab at getting something in MDW. The product is 10 X better than united or american or deltar in economy and the name recognition is good but they just dont fly anywhere.
Europe could be good for them and I hope it is but your only talking max 3 flights a day out of JFK to London and then I dont know where else they are thinking of going in Europe. Berlin, Nice, Hamburg? All possible and in the range and definitely under served citys.
Pff what do I know.
Europe could be good for them and I hope it is but your only talking max 3 flights a day out of JFK to London and then I dont know where else they are thinking of going in Europe. Berlin, Nice, Hamburg? All possible and in the range and definitely under served citys.
Pff what do I know.
12-31-2019, 08:14 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
I would also bet on more frequencies,
Look at the size of SWA and JetBlue. Look at how many city’s they both serve. It’s almost the same number yet SWA is way bigger vs JetBlue so we definitely have room to add flying to existing city’s as well as Europe and new places.
Wall St has the ELT by the B—-ls. They hate growth because it is expensive and want to see our EPS go up. I think if they can hit that they could make a case for more aggressive growth both to the board and Wall St.
But the above is all a guess.
Look at the size of SWA and JetBlue. Look at how many city’s they both serve. It’s almost the same number yet SWA is way bigger vs JetBlue so we definitely have room to add flying to existing city’s as well as Europe and new places.
Wall St has the ELT by the B—-ls. They hate growth because it is expensive and want to see our EPS go up. I think if they can hit that they could make a case for more aggressive growth both to the board and Wall St.
But the above is all a guess.
JB has historically added 250-300 per year to the seniority list, as fly-by pointed out with his graphic. The only reason I think 400ish is coming in the next few years is a combination of; CBA needs, as well as the Airbus deliveries (Airbus fly's the graveyard shift, more pilots per plane than the mixed fleet average), Europe (will require more pilots per plane, I think), A220s may fly SOME graveyard shift flying (more pilots per plane than the E90, 3-4-5 years from now).
As you said, all just a guess.
That all assumes JB doesn't do ANOTHER delivery revision slowing deliveries. And doesn't include any acquisition by JB or of JB.
12-31-2019, 08:40 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Agree.
JB has historically added 250-300 per year to the seniority list, as fly-by pointed out with his graphic. The only reason I think 400ish is coming in the next few years is a combination of; CBA needs, as well as the Airbus deliveries (Airbus fly's the graveyard shift, more pilots per plane than the mixed fleet average), Europe (will require more pilots per plane, I think), A220s may fly SOME graveyard shift flying (more pilots per plane than the E90, 3-4-5 years from now).
As you said, all just a guess.
That all assumes JB doesn't do ANOTHER delivery revision slowing deliveries. And doesn't include any acquisition by JB or of JB.
JB has historically added 250-300 per year to the seniority list, as fly-by pointed out with his graphic. The only reason I think 400ish is coming in the next few years is a combination of; CBA needs, as well as the Airbus deliveries (Airbus fly's the graveyard shift, more pilots per plane than the mixed fleet average), Europe (will require more pilots per plane, I think), A220s may fly SOME graveyard shift flying (more pilots per plane than the E90, 3-4-5 years from now).
As you said, all just a guess.
That all assumes JB doesn't do ANOTHER delivery revision slowing deliveries. And doesn't include any acquisition by JB or of JB.
I would think there will also be some kind of training bubble with 3 fleet types for some years.
12-31-2019, 08:51 AM
#25
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
I would think there will also be some kind of training bubble with 3 fleet types for some years.
And having LR/XLR be in a separate bid group will require more staff.
Anyone know if they can/will do 24 hour layovers in London? Or will it require longer layovers?
What about something longer like CDG?
12-31-2019, 08:57 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
I would also bet on more frequencies,
Look at the size of SWA and JetBlue. Look at how many city’s they both serve. It’s almost the same number yet SWA is way bigger vs JetBlue so we definitely have room to add flying to existing city’s as well as Europe and new places.
If we don’t hit the $2.50 target then all bets are off. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Europe indefinitely delayed, new management team, and real merger talk.
Wall St has the ELT by the B—-ls. They hate growth because it is expensive and want to see our EPS go up. I think if they can hit that they could make a case for more aggressive growth both to the board and Wall St.
But the above is all a guess.
Look at the size of SWA and JetBlue. Look at how many city’s they both serve. It’s almost the same number yet SWA is way bigger vs JetBlue so we definitely have room to add flying to existing city’s as well as Europe and new places.
If we don’t hit the $2.50 target then all bets are off. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Europe indefinitely delayed, new management team, and real merger talk.
Wall St has the ELT by the B—-ls. They hate growth because it is expensive and want to see our EPS go up. I think if they can hit that they could make a case for more aggressive growth both to the board and Wall St.
But the above is all a guess.
If we don’t hit the $2.50 target then I could see Europe indefinitely delayed, new management team brought in, and real merger discussions.
12-31-2019, 09:01 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Agreed. More frequencies would be a conservative add. 2020 will be a cautious growth year, with all eyes focused on the EPS $2.50-$3.00 target. If we meet that then 2021+ will be a new era in growth and likely big shifts in risk appetite.
12-31-2019, 09:08 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Yup, forgot that I previously remembered that. 😁
And having LR/XLR be in a separate bid group will require more staff.
Anyone know if they can/will do 24 hour layovers in London? Or will it require longer layovers?
What about something longer like CDG?
And having LR/XLR be in a separate bid group will require more staff.
Anyone know if they can/will do 24 hour layovers in London? Or will it require longer layovers?
What about something longer like CDG?
12-31-2019, 09:28 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
I don’t think it will require anything that long. Unacclimated FDPs reduce the Table B by 30mins, which isn’t a huge hit for short TATL flights.
12-31-2019, 09:57 AM
#30
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Less than 24 hours?
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