Frontier V JB
01-21-2020, 11:21 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Frontier is about to lose the last major thing in their contract that’s better than JB’s. Line bidding. I had a senior frontier guy on the Jumpseat last week bragging about his 140 hour month because of it. The guys over there that can reliably trip touch everything and credit 130-140 a month are about to get a massive reality check.
My “RJ” allows me to be based at home for $15 an hour less than frontiers 320/321 rates. I worked 320 hours last year and averaged 4 nights away from home a month.
Go ahead and tell someone to commute to frontier instead though.
. It would be equally as dumb to tell someone who lives in DEN or LAS to choose JB instead.
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My “RJ” allows me to be based at home for $15 an hour less than frontiers 320/321 rates. I worked 320 hours last year and averaged 4 nights away from home a month.
Go ahead and tell someone to commute to frontier instead though.
. It would be equally as dumb to tell someone who lives in DEN or LAS to choose JB instead.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Any credits above 82 are at 1.25. No more JA for any pilots. Scheduling flexibility to remain in tact with PBS.
How long to be a line holding Captain? How about in Florida?
01-21-2020, 11:30 AM
#32
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Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli
Maybe today’s rates. Over the life of Frontiers contract the gaps are closed significantly. That’s on a 75hr guarantee also.
Any credits above 82 are at 1.25. No more JA for any pilots. Scheduling flexibility to remain in tact with PBS.
How long to be a line holding Captain? How about in Florida?
Any credits above 82 are at 1.25. No more JA for any pilots. Scheduling flexibility to remain in tact with PBS.
How long to be a line holding Captain? How about in Florida?
I thought the poster lived in Boston no?
01-21-2020, 12:00 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli
Maybe today’s rates. Over the life of Frontiers contract the gaps are closed significantly. That’s on a 75hr guarantee also.
Any credits above 82 are at 1.25. No more JA for any pilots. Scheduling flexibility to remain in tact with PBS.
How long to be a line holding Captain? How about in Florida?
Any credits above 82 are at 1.25. No more JA for any pilots. Scheduling flexibility to remain in tact with PBS.
How long to be a line holding Captain? How about in Florida?
01-21-2020, 04:13 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Hopefully no one there loses their medical during the life of Frontier’s contract with how their LTD plan is constructed. Jetblue will also be about 18 months into negotiating the next contract by 2023. No one here is arguing that Frontier has a quicker upgrade time, especially in a place like MCO.....but yeah this person lives in Boston. I guess he could commute to MCO, sounds reasonable.
01-21-2020, 05:06 PM
#35
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
Absolutely! I can't believe that glaring shortcoming hadn't been mentioned sooner. Why the heck don't they have "same occupation" LTD to 65 like JB and NK do?
01-21-2020, 05:30 PM
#36
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Hopefully no one there loses their medical during the life of Frontier’s contract with how their LTD plan is constructed. Jetblue will also be about 18 months into negotiating the next contract by 2023. No one here is arguing that Frontier has a quicker upgrade time, especially in a place like MCO.....but yeah this person lives in Boston. I guess he could commute to MCO, sounds reasonable.
i personally would tell guys to seek an outfit with great benefits, but no one listens due to the growth propaganda machine, SJS, and all that.....
Oh, and don’t call in fatigued, or sick......that’s what got me where I am today..........too funny Alpa National seems to never stop pumping out endless communiques on writing Congress to fight for pilots rights, 117, rest rules.....and they have absolutely been USELESS and UNWILLING to defend my rights as an airman in ANY WAY, SHAPE, or FORM.......be warned........
01-21-2020, 05:54 PM
#37
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Position: Airbus Capt
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Originally Posted by Fifi
you don’t want to find out.....I’m out for a year w/out pay, and today my LTD got disapproved.
i personally would tell guys to seek an outfit with great benefits, but no one listens due to the growth propaganda machine, SJS, and all that.....
Oh, and don’t call in fatigued, or sick......that’s what got me where I am today..........too funny Alpa National seems to never stop pumping out endless communiques on writing Congress to fight for pilots rights, 117, rest rules.....and they have absolutely been USELESS and UNWILLING to defend my rights as an airman in ANY WAY, SHAPE, or FORM.......be warned........
i personally would tell guys to seek an outfit with great benefits, but no one listens due to the growth propaganda machine, SJS, and all that.....
Oh, and don’t call in fatigued, or sick......that’s what got me where I am today..........too funny Alpa National seems to never stop pumping out endless communiques on writing Congress to fight for pilots rights, 117, rest rules.....and they have absolutely been USELESS and UNWILLING to defend my rights as an airman in ANY WAY, SHAPE, or FORM.......be warned........
01-21-2020, 09:06 PM
#39
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Position: Airbus Capt
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
frontier hands down?
But hey, towards the end of their contract, F9 might almost be just a lot still behind on payrates, just as B6 is deep into negotiations for CBA2...
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01-21-2020, 09:19 PM
#40
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Posts: 555
This is an amazing dynamic of ****/blocking “did that pass the mods!” For people who pay the same percentage of dues. Who cares? What is going to help this pilot? But no, let’s go down the rabbit hole of contract imperfections and the my airline / is better than yours bs. This is a life decision for one of your peers. Treat it like that. End of rant
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