Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 2971076)

Just chiming in that tailoring isn’t remotely free. At all.
And neither is food at the lodge.

Originally Posted by Toonces (Post 2971050)

I’m sure some people are harder on their uniforms. In my experience, I’m still wearing the original issued uniform after two years. Pants are in fine shape and the shirts are ok. I’ll refresh the shirts this year. Tailoring cost me $15/shirt and the pants were $12 each. I had the shirts taken in and the sleeves hemmed, and the pants were hemmed only. One of my ties is indestructible and the other pattern falls apart after one use. I stopped wearing that pattern. The suiting jacket is in fine shape, the overcoat has hardly been worn, and the sweater is junk. However, it’s my favorite to wear due to its warmth so I deal with it.

I don’t get the *****ing about tailoring. The uniform allowance is plenty to cover it. If it isn’t, you should find a different tailor or accept that you want to spend more on “premium” tailoring. I’m sure an RSA will cover your next 5 years of tailoring.

The uniforms are the least of our problems. We should fix them if we can, but spend very little effort on it compared to the rest of our issues.

Originally Posted by Toonces (Post 2971050)

I’m sure some people are harder on their uniforms. In my experience, I’m still wearing the original issued uniform after two years. Pants are in fine shape and the shirts are ok. I’ll refresh the shirts this year. Tailoring cost me $15/shirt and the pants were $12 each. I had the shirts taken in and the sleeves hemmed, and the pants were hemmed only. One of my ties is indestructible and the other pattern falls apart after one use. I stopped wearing that pattern. The suiting jacket is in fine shape, the overcoat has hardly been worn, and the sweater is junk. However, it’s my favorite to wear due to its warmth so I deal with it.

I don’t get the *****ing about tailoring. The uniform allowance is plenty to cover it. If it isn’t, you should find a different tailor or accept that you want to spend more on “premium” tailoring. I’m sure an RSA will cover your next 5 years of tailoring.

The uniforms are the least of our problems. We should fix them if we can, but spend very little effort on it compared to the rest of our issues.


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Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2971081)

How much have you paid, out of your own pocket, for tailoring?

Originally Posted by Ted Striker (Post 2971041)

Good god we are in trouble at this place on our next contract.

Tailoring .... is... not ... free. At all. This is literally black and white.

Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 2971087)

I used negotiated monies that I could have otherwise used to purchase luggage, more uniform pieces, etc. I had to make the decision to use that money towards tailoring. I also don’t pay for parking if I report in less than 2.5 hours, that’s a negotiated benefit, not free parking.

I feel we have enough to pay for everything, but it’s not “free”.
And of my three shirts, within a year I’ve had one epaulet fall apart, a hole in the seem of a pair of pants, and I flew less that 300 hours. And I ONLY dry clean.

Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2970982)

hmmmmm I think 2013?

We had the 2011 blue and different wings. At some point we got those other blue shirts that we’re supposed to not fade but apparently could easily catch fire. The dumb overcoat was an option and the leather was eventually phased out.

I don’t know they made such of a production of it before I doubt they would just be like here white shirts.

I am curious what they will do for 20 years.
hmmmmm 20 super passes to be used in 20 days?

Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2971125)

So... zero out of pocket. Another way of saying free to you. As in you did not pay for it. As you said, we have more than enough money for uniforms/tailoring/other items. We are saying the same thing with different words. Someone else is paying for your uniforms.