ULCC Model vs. JetBlue
02-25-2020 | 03:27 AM
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Should be interesting to see how the A220 factors into the equation as it replaces less versatile and higher CASM E190s.... However, with the slow production rate out of Mobile, it might take awhile to realize the benefits.
02-25-2020 | 03:55 AM
#12
SDQ Base Chief
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I am concerned about additional 220 and 321 delays from Airbus. I wouldn’t be surprised by both of these.
02-25-2020 | 04:58 AM
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The REAL Bluedriver
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Yep. Likely more delays. Yet Frontier and Spirit are taking way more Airbus deliveries than JB and are half the size of JB.
02-25-2020 | 05:28 AM
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
This is exactly right.
02-25-2020 | 08:56 AM
#16
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Spirit guy here...easy answer to this... JB doesn’t compete... they have an awesome product and a VERY loyal following in the NE... A JB pax living in suburban CT has no interest in saving 60 bucks to ride on Spirit to Florida. The market has shown in recent years that both can be financially viable. Spirit is Walmart and JB is Macy’s. We are growing like crazy at Spirit and we’re finally running a great airline operationally. I could be completely wrong but I don’t think JB management is shivering in they’re shoes by any stretch of the imagination. Just my 02 cents.
-Bubs
02-25-2020 | 09:35 AM
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I get it... im a spirit pilot... and I’m proud of the progress I’ve seen here in the almost decade since I started... but I still stand by the product differential being the line in the sand. Even with the upgrades we’re doing with new cabins, WiFi, etc... it’s pails in comparison to the mint experience for example. Not better or worse but different. There’s a market for both and if I’m going from NYC to Vegas on personal time... guess who I wanna ride on? Not my own metal... the seats are awful for anything over 3 hours. The average business person who is paying with a company credit card is gonna use blue 99 out of 100 times. Spirit caters to the leisure market and is trying to market small business owners on budgets. They’ve been successful so far. I interviewed at both... Spirit offered first. I got lucky and I’m very senior with less than 10 years seniority and I literally make my own schedule. Spirit looks good in a recession because they can manipulate things and keep costs and CASM down. IMO (which ain’t worth much) you’ll see Blue continue to spread they’re premium product on transcons and over the Atlantic and be successful. You’ll NEVER see a yellow airplane competing on those routes.
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