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04-01-2020 | 06:54 AM
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I think if they wanted more, they would have just dropped the age to 62/61/60 etc. Dropping the age down to 60 would yield about 200 people who are eligible. But, if they just offer a relative handful as part of 23.A...then they checked that box and can move on to the other items in 23.A. Or maybe they offer more later once there’s more clarity on the peak/recovery.
04-01-2020 | 06:55 AM
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They literally employee folks with advanced mathematics degrees. You think they haven’t done the math?
You think they’re gonna pay pilots at the top of the pay scale FIVE YEARS of 50 hour credit lines to do nothing in order to save a few furloughs?? You’re the delusional one.
They are following the CBA. They are going to do what they believe is best for the COMPANY. Not the individual pilots.
You think they’re gonna pay pilots at the top of the pay scale FIVE YEARS of 50 hour credit lines to do nothing in order to save a few furloughs?? You’re the delusional one.
They are following the CBA. They are going to do what they believe is best for the COMPANY. Not the individual pilots.
04-01-2020 | 07:09 AM
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And I must say, your mind is blown pretty easily. That or you just have really poor reading comprehension or the ability to grasp the obvious.
For your sake, and to ensure I'm not attacking you, I'll succinctly rephrase my opinion on what is happening:
The company is not doing everything they can to save money, with particular emphasis on how/what they offering pilots. This is intentional, as they are simply checking the boxes of Section 23. This enables them the ability to furlough. THAT is ultimately the way they will save the most money.
/end of attack
04-01-2020 | 07:20 AM
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04-01-2020 | 07:20 AM
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I'm sorry, you feel personally attacked? Wow, how hurtful that must have been when I said they are following the contract. Do we have an APC safe space we can have you sit in for a while. I'd hate to further "attack" you for simply posting my opinions.
And I must say, your mind is blown pretty easily. That or you just have really poor reading comprehension or the ability to grasp the obvious.
For your sake, and to ensure I'm not attacking you, I'll succinctly rephrase my opinion on what is happening:
The company is not doing everything they can to save money, with particular emphasis on how/what they offering pilots. This is intentional, as they are simply checking the boxes of Section 23. This enables them the ability to furlough. THAT is ultimately the way they will save the most money.
/end of attack
And I must say, your mind is blown pretty easily. That or you just have really poor reading comprehension or the ability to grasp the obvious.
For your sake, and to ensure I'm not attacking you, I'll succinctly rephrase my opinion on what is happening:
The company is not doing everything they can to save money, with particular emphasis on how/what they offering pilots. This is intentional, as they are simply checking the boxes of Section 23. This enables them the ability to furlough. THAT is ultimately the way they will save the most money.
/end of attack
So, basically you still agree that not enough is being done?
04-01-2020 | 07:26 AM
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What I have been saying all along.
And that it's purposeful. And that they aren't going to do more. They are going to follow the CBA.
Believe me, I don't want to be furloughed (again).
If you have some wonderful ideas, they are currently appealing to you to tell them.
And that it's purposeful. And that they aren't going to do more. They are going to follow the CBA.
Believe me, I don't want to be furloughed (again).
If you have some wonderful ideas, they are currently appealing to you to tell them.
04-01-2020 | 07:43 AM
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Yea ok buddy. The company is desperate to save money every every way they can. If you find something in the CBA that would help reduce costs, make the MEC aware of it. Make the company aware of it instead of trying to be an APC hero.
04-01-2020 | 07:48 AM
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And I hope I'm wrong.
04-01-2020 | 07:51 AM
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Maybe credit caps to start. Amazing how many VDAS and prem trips went out last month. People crediting over 150 hours while reserves stayed at home.
I wonder why we skipped over that part of whatever section 23 is, and maybe whatever rsv periods means and maybe whatever that part time award thing means.
So yeah they are stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. They are not doing EVERYTHING they can to save money. It also says something about it not being limited to whatever section 23 is.
So maybe stop the individual greed. 0 hours/50 hours/75 hours. Open time is blocked or not blocked but everyone is capped at 75 hours. No VDA no Prem. 35 hours part time lines.
So either our cash flow problem hasn’t been that dire or maybe we all should expect to be on the street.
I wonder why we skipped over that part of whatever section 23 is, and maybe whatever rsv periods means and maybe whatever that part time award thing means.
So yeah they are stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. They are not doing EVERYTHING they can to save money. It also says something about it not being limited to whatever section 23 is.
So maybe stop the individual greed. 0 hours/50 hours/75 hours. Open time is blocked or not blocked but everyone is capped at 75 hours. No VDA no Prem. 35 hours part time lines.
So either our cash flow problem hasn’t been that dire or maybe we all should expect to be on the street.
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