Originally Posted by AYLflyer

I'm not a flica guy and finally signed up for alerts back late last year. I didn't have a schedule because I went through transition so I figured alerts would be a good way to build from a 0 hour line and maybe get some good stuff. Nope. Nothing but frustration. I had heard stories about flica bots and people just sitting on flica all day but I didn't fully beleive it until I saw it myself. At one point I put a specific requirement into alerts and let it bypass my do not disturb during the night. My phone went off just before 4am and I logged in, and the trip was already gone. Another time I experimented on my day off in my office. Kept Flica up on my 2nd monitor and watched open time (this is all pre covid). I'd get an alert but never see anything drop into open time, or sometimes I'd see a new trip in open time and by the time I clicked on it it was already taken.

I've since cancelled flica alerts and don't plan to return. It was more of a headache than anything else for me. If this COVID stuff blows over and we manage to keep our jobs then I'll go back to my old ways of basically fly what I'm awarded.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

All this is why we NEED to make changes to the system.

Also, for the gurus who don't want to keep EVERY secret to themselves, how is it that a trip goes into open time, you submit for it, and it's pending for a while and then says "denied" "pairing XYZ not available"?

It's easy to understand when it says "picked up by emp ####", but how is it just "not available"?

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand

because the pairing has changed and is no longer available.
M6R01
is now M6R01A
with a self DH on the front/back or something like that.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

It gets posted, and then removed and changed, all in the time a request is pending?

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand

you’re still thinking that this is an open market thing.

This isnt my bag of chips, but I’m pretty sure it goes something like this.
-guy sees pairing about to be disrupted and calls CS. (crewtrac)
Cs says yep we need to modify that crew.
Guy says I’ll do it.
Cs well it has to go too open time. Guy says ok when.
Cs.
Now.
(mad refreshing on flica)
Ok i got the trip i don’t need that Dh leg or I’m already at the airport adjust my show or btw that pairing you built is illegal...

I dunno. But I know it happens, by the time flica triggers the alert it goes out you look at your phone sign in click click click... 2-5min or more has past and that trip is gone. Sometimes it lags in open time. Even though it’s gone.

Originally Posted by Roy Biggins

But, but, but...why do we have to change our system-we’ve had it for 20 years. You just have to be fastest and most bestest...

Thats scenario seems pretty accurate btw CCH

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand

you’re still thinking that this is an open market thing.

This isnt my bag of chips, but I’m pretty sure it goes something like this.
-guy sees pairing about to be disrupted and calls CS. (crewtrac)
Cs says yep we need to modify that crew.
Guy says I’ll do it.
Cs well it has to go too open time. Guy says ok when.
Cs.
Now.
(mad refreshing on flica)
Ok i got the trip i don’t need that Dh leg or I’m already at the airport adjust my show or btw that pairing you built is illegal...

I dunno. But I know it happens, by the time flica triggers the alert it goes out you look at your phone sign in click click click... 2-5min or more has past and that trip is gone. Sometimes it lags in open time. Even though it’s gone.

Originally Posted by AYLflyer

One thing that I forgot to mention that I noticed on multiple occasions, is people just picking up trips and immedietely putting them on the trade board.

If we're gonna change something, how about we stop that BS from happening. I actually do remember now trying for a trip, didn't get it and then saw it on the tradeboard. If you have no intention of flying, why are you even taking it.

Originally Posted by AYLflyer

One thing that I forgot to mention that I noticed on multiple occasions, is people just picking up trips and immedietely putting them on the trade board.

If we're gonna change something, how about we stop that BS from happening. I actually do remember now trying for a trip, didn't get it and then saw it on the tradeboard. If you have no intention of flying, why are you even taking it.