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Old 04-25-2020 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil Laschio
When I was a bus FO I flew with a captain that had 3 laptops out enroute dialed into flica. Three. Not exactly what I’d call legal. But he pointed out I needed to climb at 500 fpm (not the 400 I was doing) between FL360-370.
That why I specifically stated legal. It has to be a level playing field. Although after the NFL draft nothing is a level playing field. This Bengals fan just bought tickets to Tampa.
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Old 04-25-2020 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
Who cares? As long as it is done legal why do you care who gets the trips? Sure there are times that I want a trip and I don't get one. Sure sometimes I may get little frustrated . I clearly do not want it bad enough. I AM NOT WILLING TO LIVE MY LIFE LIKE THAT. Others are willing to give their life, and soul to FLICA and the refresh. Yes let's spend money in section 6 on what? Telling others they are to fast when picking up trips on FLICA. That sounds like money well spent? We have way bigger fish to fry than act like children where one kids ice cream cone is bigger than the other.
Well I care, as I’m sure many others care. I didn’t say how much capital I was willing to negotiate for this item in Section 6, but it’s something that can easily be remedied. 10 minute hold times etc. Yea, I’m aware we have bigger fish to fry. This one is easy. Why not get it done next go around. Model after the Southwest open time. What’s so difficult about that? Like I said, I can’t imagine giving up much of anything to get this done. It’s a no brainer.
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Old 04-25-2020 | 05:52 PM
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Man you are delusional. Obama did lock children up and waited 6 months to declare during his pandemic. But dont let the facts get in the way juniorjetpilot.
"Obama declared a national emergency, not a public health emergency, in October 2009. The Obama administration declared a public health emergency in April, months before swine flu was declared a pandemic. At the time that the Obama administration declared a public health emergency, only 20 confirmed cases (not over a million, as some websites have claimed) of H1N1 existed in the United States."
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Old 04-25-2020 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
Terminal 5 is still deserted. And trying to pick up open-time is still a joke. Carry on.
I recently was in the ORD terminals (often we bypass the terminals). I hadn't been there in about a month. I was shocked. No one there. Almost everything closed. It seemed like I was in a movie about how a pandemic had killed almost everyone in the US, and everything was empty...
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Old 04-25-2020 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
"Obama declared a national emergency, not a public health emergency, in October 2009. The Obama administration declared a public health emergency in April, months before swine flu was declared a pandemic. At the time that the Obama administration declared a public health emergency, only 20 confirmed cases (not over a million, as some websites have claimed) of H1N1 existed in the United States."
Scientist Accuses W.H.O. of ‘Deliberate Negligence’ — ‘Model Projections Were Deliberately Inflated . . . to Create Social Panic’ — ‘Get the Politicians to Lock Down State Economies and Commit $Billions to New Vaccines’

Gravitas: Why is the WHO Director General toeing China's line? | Coronavirus

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And..... the WHO won't even acknowledge the existence of Taiwan, despite their prophetic warnings about the Wuhan virus. The WHO is under the control of the Chinese Communist Party. Look at the corruption behind the appointment of the WHO attorney general as detailed in this report.

Trump was right about these global government organizations... we shouldn't rely on them and we should defund them.
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Old 04-25-2020 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot
Those troops are still there. Just because he says something, doesn't mean he did it. And surrendering Syria to putin is 1000x worse than whatever the **** you think Obama did by visiting and respecting other countries.

And Obama never locked innocent children in cages.

And Obama didn't ignore a crisis now costing 50,000 American lives.
Syria is better off under the control of assad. That is a good thing, Russia seems to understand that.

Actually he did lock "kids in cages". Either way it's justified as they are illegal aliens. Good for him.

Trump also issued travel bands earlier than anyone all the while Dems crying about "racism".

Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot
Your kidding right?

You didn't see the pictures of children in cages? You ignored it? No matter what your opinion is, you have to agree that those children had NOTHING to do with their circumstances. They didn't decide where they were born or what their parents did.

He was called a racist because when he closed those borders (he never actually closed them, they are still open) it was based upon nationality and citizenship. This virus does not discrimate like he does. He should have completely closed the borders much much sooner. He has a million times more reason to do so than based upon any religion or race.

And before you start thowing out the fascist word, you might open a history book.

But this has become typical of republicans this day. They support someone who can't speak over a fifth grade level and is NOT mentally well. When someone calls them out on it, they say "I know you are, but what am I".

Thank you for your service.
So where should we put illegal Aliens? Doesn't matter their age, either it stopped the parents from using the "unaccompanied minor" loophole.
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Old 04-25-2020 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
Who cares? As long as it is done legal why do you care who gets the trips? Sure there are times that I want a trip and I don't get one. Sure sometimes I may get little frustrated . I clearly do not want it bad enough. I AM NOT WILLING TO LIVE MY LIFE LIKE THAT. Others are willing to give their life, and soul to FLICA and the refresh. Yes let's spend money in section 6 on what? Telling others they are to fast when picking up trips on FLICA. That sounds like money well spent? We have way bigger fish to fry than act like children where one kids ice cream cone is bigger than the other.

it’s rare that I pick up a trip, but I care about this. If we end up with pilots on furlough, do you think these individuals that repeatedly manage to be the 1st one to pick up a trip are going to stop? If we had hundreds of guys on the street they would still be trying to credit 200 hours a month. And they must be incredibly fast if they are winning the Flica race and crediting 150 to 200 hours when other pilots are trying and can’t pick up one trip. Even if bots aren’t being used (Which I find hard to believe since apparently a few people are consistently getting the trips) why not change the system to make it more balanced? And I’m not even sure we have to wait to for the next contract to get the change. It’s a simple change that doesn’t cost the company anything. In times of change many things are possible. Just like the fact that London slots or LAX gates might now become available to JetBlue, a simple change in a computer program might be available to JetBlue pilots.
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Old 04-26-2020 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Icarus39
it’s rare that I pick up a trip, but I care about this. If we end up with pilots on furlough, do you think these individuals that repeatedly manage to be the 1st one to pick up a trip are going to stop? If we had hundreds of guys on the street they would still be trying to credit 200 hours a month. And they must be incredibly fast if they are winning the Flica race and crediting 150 to 200 hours when other pilots are trying and can’t pick up one trip. Even if bots aren’t being used (Which I find hard to believe since apparently a few people are consistently getting the trips) why not change the system to make it more balanced? And I’m not even sure we have to wait to for the next contract to get the change. It’s a simple change that doesn’t cost the company anything. In times of change many things are possible. Just like the fact that London slots or LAX gates might now become available to JetBlue, a simple change in a computer program might be available to JetBlue pilots.
Maybe the company likes these guys?

with a furlough everything changes. EVERYTHING!
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Old 04-26-2020 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
Maybe the company likes these guys?

with a furlough everything changes. EVERYTHING!
if anyone picks up anything during a furlough they deserve so much more than a punch in the face. For every 70 hours the pilot group picks up, its one less person on the street.
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Old 04-26-2020 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Icarus39
it’s rare that I pick up a trip, but I care about this. If we end up with pilots on furlough, do you think these individuals that repeatedly manage to be the 1st one to pick up a trip are going to stop? If we had hundreds of guys on the street they would still be trying to credit 200 hours a month. And they must be incredibly fast if they are winning the Flica race and crediting 150 to 200 hours when other pilots are trying and can’t pick up one trip. Even if bots aren’t being used (Which I find hard to believe since apparently a few people are consistently getting the trips) why not change the system to make it more balanced? And I’m not even sure we have to wait to for the next contract to get the change. It’s a simple change that doesn’t cost the company anything. In times of change many things are possible. Just like the fact that London slots or LAX gates might now become available to JetBlue, a simple change in a computer program might be available to JetBlue pilots.
At Delta, a pilot can swap with another pilot (or give away his/her trip) anytime. Open Time (time that has been given back to the company or removed from peoples schedules due to sick or other conflicts) is available to everyone but you put in a request and then 4 times a day (as specified times) they run the computer which goes in seniority order to assign/swap with open time until all requests were assigned. They also have pickup limits that prevent a pilot from just picking up more than 15hrs (not sure on this number) more than the average line value for each pilot so it keeps pilots from being able to just hoard all the open time trips.

This system seems to honor seniority, while allowing as many as possible to participate in open time but not requiring a pilot to sit in front of their computer all day long waiting for a trip to drop into open time.
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