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02-16-2021 | 10:50 AM

#291

capt707

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Originally Posted by 11Alpha

Rather disappointing to see how many pilots here are willing to sell our hard fought scope. The main reason we were told that other sections of the CBA were lacking. At least it failed, however some of this group need to pull their heads out of the sand

IF they come back and offer a 3% raise now, it will pass easily!

Pathetic!

02-16-2021 | 10:50 AM

#292

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Originally Posted by 11Alpha

The sand? More like their 4th point of contact.

02-16-2021 | 10:57 AM

#293

ClncClarence

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So, judging from the ‘Exit Poll’ thread, who is more out of touch with the pilot group? The MEC or APC...?

02-16-2021 | 10:59 AM

#294

Al Czervik

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Originally Posted by Softpayman

46-54 No Wins

02-16-2021 | 11:07 AM

#295

seekingblue

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From: fifi whisperer

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Originally Posted by ClncClarence

So, judging from the ‘Exit Poll’ thread, who is more out of touch with the pilot group? The MEC or APC...?

APC, obviously.

it’s easy to be a no voter— no matter the subject— versus a yes voter.

lots of quiet yes voters.

02-16-2021 | 11:23 AM

#296

HulkaBurger

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Awesome. Now you guys get to lie in the bed you made while the company gives you the finger.

Well done!!

02-16-2021 | 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by seekingblue

APC, obviously.

it’s easy to be a no voter— no matter the subject— versus a yes voter.

lots of quiet yes voters.

The problem is the folks I've talked to in person who voted yes didn't really give me a reason. I'm not judging your decision, but you gotta give me something other than "Well if it gets voted down the company will probably just screw us at contract talks so I'm just going to vote yes".

I can give you multiple reasons for my 'No' vote. It's not a 'stick it to the company', it's valid reasons that haven't been addressed properly. Good faith and assumptions do nothing when the company has real lawyers looking for any and every loophole to make sure they get their way if the language allows it.

02-16-2021 | 11:30 AM

#298

El Peso

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With any luck maybe the whole “alliance” is DOA. Let’s keep our fingers crossed.

02-16-2021 | 11:34 AM

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Blue Dude

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Originally Posted by seekingblue

it’s easy to be a no voter— no matter the subject— versus a yes voter.

Um, yeah. It's a real mark of courage to simply believe what you're told and follow along accordingly.

02-16-2021 | 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AYLflyer

Good faith and assumptions do nothing when the company has real lawyers looking for any and every loophole to make sure they get their way if the language allows it.

Almost correct. The company has real lawyers WRITING each and every loophole, not looking for them.

Like I said three weeks ago, every word of that TA was written for a specific reason.