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Old 01-28-2021, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by blueballs View Post
actually spoke to one of the yes voting jfk lec reps this morning for an hour. Tried to tell me what the good deal was but never got around to telling me....he did however inform me the company is unwilling to commit to profit sharing and anything above 2% cola is too much. My take away was if they weren’t willing to give us things that were free for now (PS and a future raise) then I guess it’s not that important for this to get passed. Also there will be talk of furloughs without the deal but there will in fact be no furloughs.

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This gents. FWIW I was at training very recently and the tone was anything other than furloughs. They plan to hire the poolies and the guys they sent home starting in July. Granted I was skeptical, but the aircraft orders and renovations haven’t stopped. They are also making a boat load of cash leasing out our A220 sim to DAL. Anything outside of PS is a non starter. And while we’re at it I want my 12hrs/mo PTO back vs the 6 we get now.

I’m not giving up scope without a significant carrot.
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Old 01-28-2021, 06:19 PM
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I’m not giving up scope without a significant carrot.
Shouldn’t that just say, “I’m not giving up scope.” Who cares what the carrot is if you give up scope!
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Old 01-28-2021, 06:24 PM
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I don't see anything that benefits us long term. My biggest thing during the actual CBA vote was scope. I'm not giving up an inch of scope for any sort of 'security' in the form of job protection. No.
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Old 01-28-2021, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by citxls View Post
They plan to hire the poolies and the guys they sent home starting in July.
"Plan" based upon this "plan' going though one way or the other!
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Old 01-29-2021, 04:05 AM
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How much flying can AA due under LOA 12?
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Old 01-29-2021, 04:15 AM
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How much flying can AA due under LOA 12?

Difference is code share vs joint venture revenue sharing....


Under loa 12 it makes sense for each airline to fly as many of their own passengers as possible because standard code shares generate very little revenue of the partner does the flying.

Under the revenue share they coordinate schedules, pull down frequency and share revenue.

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Old 01-29-2021, 04:36 AM
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“JB-AA Commercial Agreement” shall mean the Northeast Alliance Agreement (“NEA”) entered into by American Airlines, Inc. and JetBlue Airways Corporation, effective July 15, 2020, including any Related Agreement(s) as defined in Section 1.2 of the NEA, and excluding any successor agreements to the NEA or to any Related Agreement(s), which collectively shall constitute the entire JB-AA Commercial Agreement.

This would be the new scope of which we do not have a say on what is part of the NEA nor have I seen the contents of said NEA.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...astallianc.htm
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
Difference is code share vs joint venture revenue sharing....


Under loa 12 it makes sense for each airline to fly as many of their own passengers as possible because standard code shares generate very little revenue of the partner does the flying.

Under the revenue share they coordinate schedules, pull down frequency and share revenue.

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Old 01-29-2021, 10:37 AM
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100% NO! Scope is more important than anything they could possibly offer
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Old 01-29-2021, 12:33 PM
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New Q&A out.

think it is much better than the previous Q&A.

Also think the NC need to speak and discuss this vs. bullet points
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