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02-01-2021 | 12:24 PM
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Still a yes here (not trying to change anyone’s mind).
the ALPA scope committee email + Scott’s email makes this deal hard to pass up.
funny enough, I think the same people who were vocal no voters for the contract are the same vocal no voters for this LOA. I voted yes for the contract and given all that has happened— I’m still glad I voted yes.
I predict a the LOA is a 60/40ish pass, like the contract.
the ALPA scope committee email + Scott’s email makes this deal hard to pass up.
funny enough, I think the same people who were vocal no voters for the contract are the same vocal no voters for this LOA. I voted yes for the contract and given all that has happened— I’m still glad I voted yes.
I predict a the LOA is a 60/40ish pass, like the contract.
Btw, vite NO.
02-01-2021 | 12:25 PM
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From: fifi whisperer
2 reasons I’m not concerned-
1) we can do it cheaper than AA
2) we are still required to compete.
the only thing I’ve seen RE: intl competition is the 65% number for the Caribbean. If you really have concerns, I think it’s worth a PDR and have the NC call you directly. He can show you the piece of the TA to review. I did this and it changed my view.
02-01-2021 | 12:37 PM
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From: fifi whisperer
Short answer- the company screwed up and forgot to ask for relief of 2 additional sections they need for this codeshare.
02-01-2021 | 12:39 PM
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that’s a good question. Appreciate you being reasonable.
2 reasons I’m not concerned-
1) we can do it cheaper than AA
2) we are still required to compete.
the only thing I’ve seen RE: intl competition is the 65% number for the Caribbean. If you really have concerns, I think it’s worth a PDR and have the NC call you directly. He can show you the piece of the TA to review. I did this and it changed my view.
2 reasons I’m not concerned-
1) we can do it cheaper than AA
2) we are still required to compete.
the only thing I’ve seen RE: intl competition is the 65% number for the Caribbean. If you really have concerns, I think it’s worth a PDR and have the NC call you directly. He can show you the piece of the TA to review. I did this and it changed my view.
02-01-2021 | 12:55 PM
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and we get what out of it? Send it back. Tighten up the language, get profit sharing, shorten the length, a 2% (should be 3) raise every year till our new contract.
02-01-2021 | 01:11 PM
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People are nuts if they think the company will just let the deal fail if the TA gets voted down. There WILL be more negotiations.
02-01-2021 | 01:17 PM
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02-01-2021 | 01:19 PM
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From: fifi whisperer
Look, I'm Just someone you share the cockpit with. I'm trying to do the best for my family much like you are. I think this is a good deal. If you don't, thats ok. Just don't call me a sucker.
I think you are missing part of the LOA. Take a look at LOA 13 B.2. Specifically LOA 13 B.2.D
In summary, it is a "no furlough" clause by a different name. Take a look. Tell me what you think.
02-01-2021 | 01:24 PM
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From: fifi whisperer
While I'm voting differently, I understand that position.
