Recall of LEC officers and MEC
02-24-2021 | 06:39 PM
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02-24-2021 | 07:10 PM
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02-24-2021 | 08:43 PM
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You say the CBA itself gave away codesharing without pilot group approval? I seem to remember we voted on the CBA, it was approved by the pilots... LOA 12 was not!
The point is if not for LOA 12, the NEA could not even have been contemplated in the company’s current circumstances.
The point is if not for LOA 12, the NEA could not even have been contemplated in the company’s current circumstances.
LOA 12 simply provided relief for a AA code share. When we start to grow then the company can code share and all we will get is a chance to read the press release. Why? ... you gave it (scope) away!
02-25-2021 | 04:16 AM
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The value, to the company, of a codeshare decreases the more the company is growing on its own. Inversely, that value increases as the company shrinks or contracts. That is the reason 1.F is written that way. LOA 12 stripped that protection away and gave them an incentive to create a big codeshare exactly when it offered a big value to the airline and the smallest value/greatest harm to the pilots.
The CBA didn’t give codesharing away, it only allowed it when it was the least efficient way to generate revenue.
It’s a yield proposition.
.15 cents on the dollar isn’t very much when you can make $15 on your own. 15 cents when you’re only making $1 is huge.
The CBA didn’t give codesharing away, it only allowed it when it was the least efficient way to generate revenue.
It’s a yield proposition.
.15 cents on the dollar isn’t very much when you can make $15 on your own. 15 cents when you’re only making $1 is huge.
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02-25-2021 | 05:06 AM
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The value, to the company, of a codeshare decreases the more the company is growing on its own. Inversely, that value increases as the company shrinks or contracts. That is the reason 1.F is written that way. LOA 12 stripped that protection away and gave them an incentive to create a big codeshare exactly when it offered a big value to the airline and the smallest value/greatest harm to the pilots.
The CBA didn’t give codesharing away, it only allowed it when it was the least efficient way to generate revenue.
It’s a yield proposition.
.15 cents on the dollar isn’t very much when you can make $15 on your own. 15 cents when you’re only making $1 is huge.
The CBA didn’t give codesharing away, it only allowed it when it was the least efficient way to generate revenue.
It’s a yield proposition.
.15 cents on the dollar isn’t very much when you can make $15 on your own. 15 cents when you’re only making $1 is huge.
15% operating margin is yuge cash, BTW!
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02-25-2021 | 06:17 AM
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02-25-2021 | 07:28 AM
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The CBA says the company “may”.
it also say “if” the company enters a joint venture not that the company “may not”.
this pilot group approved the scope give away.
02-25-2021 | 07:38 AM
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Geeeze.... still *****ing about the CBA? I personally voted No on that because of a multitude of different reason... But it was voted on and approved by the majority of the pilots.... the CBA is done... and yes in good times with growing block hours it permits a new codeshare... right now the CBA does not allow it without LOA 12 (which is why the company came to the union for relief, which in itself is a tacit acknowledgement). LOA would be all fine if the pilots made that decision via membership ratification and therefore were responsible for the consequences of such..... as it stands the MEC took that burden which results in this discussion.
02-25-2021 | 07:49 AM
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Geeeze.... still *****ing about the CBA? I personally voted No on that because of a multitude of different reason... But it was voted on and approved by the majority of the pilots.... the CBA is done... and yes in good times with growing block hours it permits a new codeshare.... right now the CBA does not allow it without LOA 12. LOA would be all fine if the pilots made that decision via membership ratification and therefore were responsible for the consequences of such..... as it stands the MEC took that burden which results in this discussion.
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