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05-19-2021, 06:59 PM
#11
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,310
Originally Posted by Mach10
Is this based on your 2 years of flying in JFK? Or based on what your friends are telling you?
What are you getting at? You need a decade to know this stuff?
05-19-2021, 07:03 PM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2019
Position: 757/767 CA
Posts: 253
Isn’t it more or less common knowledge as well? The trips here are terrible. I’m relatively junior, having been here less than 5 years, and until something changes I don’t see things improving. 17 year captains can’t avoid the redeye train. The open time speaks for itself... Such is life, I suppose.
05-20-2021, 03:32 AM
#13
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 314
I can't believe there aren't fatigue calls on most of those trips. Redeyes always suck, but it seems like the company has been pushing the envelope on how they are built, putting them at the beginning of a trip, followed by am shows etc..
05-20-2021, 06:52 AM
#14
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,879
It seems the company is trying to avoid building as many trips that end with a red-eye for BOS/JFK crews and avoid building 13:30s. There are way less of both of those in the bid pack the last few years. Avoiding the ADG rig in my opinion, and making LAX QOL pay for it.
05-20-2021, 10:42 AM
#16
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Joined APC: May 2019
Position: 757/767 CA
Posts: 253
Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull
Are you trying to tell me that nobody likes the LAX-LAS evening flight, sit for 2:43, and then continue on a red-eye flight to ___?
(O.K., most of those trips you only sit for 1:30, but still...two legs with a red-eye)
(O.K., most of those trips you only sit for 1:30, but still...two legs with a red-eye)
05-21-2021, 12:11 PM
#17
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Posts: 205
Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
I can't believe there aren't fatigue calls on most of those trips. Redeyes always suck, but it seems like the company has been pushing the envelope on how they are built, putting them at the beginning of a trip, followed by am shows etc..
Honestly, I believe the reason that more people don’t call out fatigued on these because they’re fatigued every single time. They’re USED to it.
The only truly safe way to do these is one leg out, DH back, done. My 2¢
10-17-2021, 09:19 PM
#19
Covfefe
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
Originally Posted by California
Any update on how long it takes to hold LAX and how’s the progression? Reserve?
10-18-2021, 04:18 AM
#20
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 48
Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Some new hires have been given LAX (apparently at least one BOS guy not by choice). There were several LAX vacancies unfilled by the system bid that will go to newhires. As for progression and reserve I couldn’t tell you other than junior CA went from 1300-1400 to 2600 on this last bid. That’s a 2014 or 2015 hire I think.
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