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03-29-2022 | 12:03 PM

#111

Bluedriver

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From: Airbus Capt

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Originally Posted by Wipeout

2.5 years in, can’t hold 190 Cpt. Meanwhile legacies are having Airbus and 737 Cpt slots go unfilled. Something to ponder…

A Delta buddy said the junior Airbus Capt was Fall 2021.

03-29-2022 | 12:08 PM

#112

feltf4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Idontevenfly

What was most junior for 320 and 190 captain?

Looks like 8/17 and 5/19

03-29-2022 | 12:14 PM

#113

FlyingDutch

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Quote:

Originally Posted by feltf4

Looks like 8/17 and 5/19

That's about 1.5yrs of hiring* to get CA. That's not bad at all, probably a histrical low in the last 10yrs at JetBlue. But yes, DL/UA is even faster

*I am purposefully excluding the time JetBlue was not hiring between 3/2020 and 8/2021 as those dates in between don't exist on the seniority list.

03-29-2022 | 12:29 PM

#114

Whica Flore

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wipeout

2.5 years in, can’t hold 190 Cpt. Meanwhile legacies are having Airbus and 737 Cpt slots go unfilled. Something to ponder…

Its a hard life

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03-29-2022 | 12:47 PM

#115

Wipeout

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Quote:

Originally Posted by feltf4

IIRC, the bid had 0 backfills and 0 Vacancies. The comparison between UAL/DAL and JBLU supplemental bid after having a pretty bid one 6 months is kind of apples and oranges.

Its absolutely not apples to oranges. Legacy Captain positions are unfilled (equal to the highest paying B6 airplane) at multiple legacies. Where one can not hold a lower paying airplane at B6. It’s an absolutely fair comparison.

03-29-2022 | 01:38 PM

#116

Your name here

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wipeout

2.5 years in, can’t hold 190 Cpt. Meanwhile legacies are having Airbus and 737 Cpt slots go unfilled. Something to ponder…

Dude, 2.5 years of seniority is nothing LOL. Be patient.

But to be fair, I get what your saying…

It’s also frustrating to wait 30 days for results and then see errors giving awards to pilots that have moved on already and aren’t even on the seniority list any longer. Positions that should’ve gone to others

03-29-2022 | 02:14 PM

#117

usmc-sgt

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Didn’t think I’d see the day someone would be upset about not holding left seat in under 3 years.

It wasn’t that long ago that 10 years wouldn’t hold left seat at Envoy.

03-29-2022 | 02:23 PM

#118

TheDuster

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

A Delta buddy said the junior Airbus Capt was Fall 2021.

Incorrect. It was the 737…

03-29-2022 | 03:47 PM

#119

todd1200

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Quote:

Originally Posted by usmc-sgt

Didn’t think I’d see the day someone would be upset about not holding left seat in under 3 years.

It wasn’t that long ago that 10 years wouldn’t hold left seat at Envoy.

We’re pilots, we like to pretend things always have been and always will be the way they are today. Recessions and furloughs are a thing of the past and portfolios should follow the 80/20 rule (Tesla/Bitcoin).

03-29-2022 | 04:10 PM

#120

TransWorld

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From: Fully Retired

Just to put all this in perspective, shortly before hiring restarted after the lost decade, there were 25 year regional pilots with a clean record just hoping they would get a call to be a FO with one of the majors! Some would never get a chance to upgrade to CA with the major, before they hit 65.