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Old 03-18-2022 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
I think bos SQ FO will go junior.
Sorry, I still don’t understand why this is Junior. I thought most people wanted the international flying. Are the trips not commutable? What are the downsides?
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Old 03-18-2022 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Sorry, I still don’t understand why this is Junior. I thought most people wanted the international flying. Are the trips not commutable? What are the downsides?
They're commutable, but there's a handful of downsides.

The trips aren't very efficient, in the sense that they're all 3 days that credit 15 hours and change.

We only fly to one city right now.

50% of your flights will be redeyes.

Reserves are required to cover all 320 flying, not just SQ stuff.

And the big allure to the international flying at AA UA and DL is the widebody pay rates, but the SQ flying is just the regular 320 pay scales plus the $4 international override.

​​Supposedly a bunch of new hires just got SQ in training, so I'm sure anyone sho wanted it on the Supplental Bid got it.
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Old 03-21-2022 | 07:52 AM
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So will they post results on friday or over the weekend? It’s due out on 27th right?
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Old 03-21-2022 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by panpanpan
So will they post results on friday or over the weekend? It’s due out on 27th right?
Due 29th I believe.
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Old 03-27-2022 | 07:18 AM
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First time with no "educated guess" leaks?
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Old 03-27-2022 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Due 29th I believe.

Yup 21 days after closing which was March 8th.
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Old 03-27-2022 | 09:12 AM
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If there’s a legitimate reason to keep the results secret, you would think leadership would share those reasons. Are they tweaking the award based on daily attrition or something? Otherwise, it seems like they are waiting until the last minute out of spite or just doing the bare minimum, neither of which are behaviors you would think they would want the pilot group to emulate.
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Old 03-27-2022 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by todd1200
If there’s a legitimate reason to keep the results secret, you would think leadership would share those reasons. Are they tweaking the award based on daily attrition or something? Otherwise, it seems like they are waiting until the last minute out of spite or just doing the bare minimum, neither of which are behaviors you would think they would want the pilot group to emulate.
They do it every time. They get up to 21 days in the contract, they use all 21 like clockwork.

Just further proves the idea that pilots and the union should “plan for them to do everything to contractual minimums.” It will help prevent “we never thought they’d actually do that” emails.
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Old 03-27-2022 | 10:41 AM
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The “Awards” have been done and known for several weeks, it is the training/transfer dates that take so long. The CBA requires them to post the awards with the training/transfer dates. Hopefully in CBA2 we can bet that changed.
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Old 03-27-2022 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by capt707
The “Awards” have been done and known for several weeks, it is the training/transfer dates that take so long. The CBA requires them to post the awards with the training/transfer dates. Hopefully in CBA2 we can bet that changed.
There is nothing that prevents the company from posting the awards and training/transfer dates separately. It just says both have to be out NLT 21 days.

“The Company will publish the Bid Award and the associated training and Transfer dates no later than twenty-one (21) days after bid closing.”

They could publish the award on day 2 and the training and transfer dates on day 21 and be in compliance with the CBA.

I don’t know why the union agreed to this in the first place though. But I say that about a lot of things these days.
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