JetBlue bids for Spirit Airlines
04-08-2022, 06:29 AM
#201
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Originally Posted by KNOTAPILOT
YOU didn’t apply. I mean that must be true for the rest too. I think the frontier and spirit merger SLI would have its issues just like any other would but absolutely would be less painful. Regardless if it’s with us once it’s over with you’d realize people are trying to defend their stance but doesn’t mean they aren’t great people. Just like you’d defend a staple doesn’t mean I won’t defend losing years of seniority. Outside that we can have a beer and talk about anything that doesn’t involve planes or work. It’s all relative btw. Let’s not forget how the frontier group treated the republic pilots. Granted there’s been many different faces in frontier since then.
We agree that the SLI would be far more contentious at JetBlue. I don’t think we will see either a pure DOH or pure relative seniority blend at the end of the day, and most guys seriously discussing it agree neither would be fair. Here’s to hoping that whatever solution might happen only screws both pilot groups equally instead of screws one group a whole bunch.
04-08-2022, 06:40 AM
#202
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Originally Posted by Flightcap
Very true, and as a Republic pilot post-Frontier era I heard the stories. Not worried about those individuals being the majority either at Frontier or JetBlue.
We agree that the SLI would be far more contentious at JetBlue. I don’t think we will see either a pure DOH or pure relative seniority blend at the end of the day, and most guys seriously discussing it agree neither would be fair. Here’s to hoping that whatever solution might happen only screws both pilot groups equally instead of screws one group a whole bunch.
We agree that the SLI would be far more contentious at JetBlue. I don’t think we will see either a pure DOH or pure relative seniority blend at the end of the day, and most guys seriously discussing it agree neither would be fair. Here’s to hoping that whatever solution might happen only screws both pilot groups equally instead of screws one group a whole bunch.
04-08-2022, 07:39 AM
#203
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Originally Posted by likeitis
Vote? What are you talking about? There won't be a vote. It would be crazy for either MEC to agree to a SLI outside of arbitration. So no vote.
04-08-2022, 09:14 AM
#204
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Originally Posted by KNOTAPILOT
YOU didn’t apply. I mean that must be true for the rest too. I think the frontier and spirit merger SLI would have its issues just like any other would but absolutely would be less painful. Regardless if it’s with us once it’s over with you’d realize people are trying to defend their stance but doesn’t mean they aren’t great people. Just like you’d defend a staple doesn’t mean I won’t defend losing years of seniority. Outside that we can have a beer and talk about anything that doesn’t involve planes or work. It’s all relative btw. Let’s not forget how the frontier group treated the republic pilots. Granted there’s been many different faces in frontier since then.
04-08-2022, 10:29 AM
#205
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Originally Posted by YellowBanana
I never applied either. Had zero desire to work for a stagnant airline. Still do actually….
04-08-2022, 10:32 AM
#206
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Originally Posted by YellowBanana
I never applied either. Had zero desire to work for a stagnant airline. Still do actually….
I think it’s in our best interests to be as amicable as possible.
You guys are getting a pretty nice pay bump, will retain most of your east cost bases, and can wash off the ULCC stigma.
Jetblue pilots can expect more growth, pacific and more Atlantic ETOPS, new great pilot co workers, and a less blurry future.
There’s going to be a lot of drama regarding the ISL but in the end it’s best for both pilot work groups.
04-08-2022, 11:07 AM
#207
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So many Fan boys on both sides.
Where is the guy that was stroking the lay down seats on a 321 narrow body over the Atlantic?
Where is the guy that was stroking the lay down seats on a 321 narrow body over the Atlantic?
04-08-2022, 11:29 AM
#208
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If this deal makes it all the way to SLI, the arbitrator will go through all the opinions posted on the internet and tally up the points for both sides. The more posts in favor of DOH, the more weight it will have in the final formula, and the same for relative seniority.
04-08-2022, 11:33 AM
#209
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Yeah, not exactly stagnant. And most of us never sent a resume to Spirit.
04-08-2022, 11:40 AM
#210
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Originally Posted by Virgalask330
Stagnant? We are hiring 100’s of pilots a month to cover growth, attrition, and retirements.
I think it’s in our best interests to be as amicable as possible.
You guys are getting a pretty nice pay bump, will retain most of your east cost bases, and can wash off the ULCC stigma.
Jetblue pilots can expect more growth, pacific and more Atlantic ETOPS, new great pilot co workers, and a less blurry future.
There’s going to be a lot of drama regarding the ISL but in the end it’s best for both pilot work groups.
I think it’s in our best interests to be as amicable as possible.
You guys are getting a pretty nice pay bump, will retain most of your east cost bases, and can wash off the ULCC stigma.
Jetblue pilots can expect more growth, pacific and more Atlantic ETOPS, new great pilot co workers, and a less blurry future.
There’s going to be a lot of drama regarding the ISL but in the end it’s best for both pilot work groups.
Once you clear the bottom 30%, our list is very stagnant. And will be for the next 15 years.
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