JetBlue bids for Spirit Airlines
04-05-2022, 02:13 PM
#61
SDQ Base Chief
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Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,588
Originally Posted by Chimpy
oh man. I Really hope this doesn’t happen. It’s nice to be able to drop your entire month and pick up what ya want, or spend a lot of time at home with the family. FML
04-05-2022, 02:14 PM
#62
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Posts: 357
Originally Posted by SoarHigh757
I have many questions…
Frontier and Spirit seemed like they mutually wanted to merge, so is this a hostile takeover attempt?
How would these products even be combined?
While JetBlue is larger, Spirit ironically has more nationwide name recognition (albeit love/hate) - how would the new brand unfold?
The good thing about this is it would fill in many of the Midwest market gaps we currently have, and more importantly, take out probably our most significant and growing central and South American competitor
Frontier and Spirit seemed like they mutually wanted to merge, so is this a hostile takeover attempt?
How would these products even be combined?
While JetBlue is larger, Spirit ironically has more nationwide name recognition (albeit love/hate) - how would the new brand unfold?
The good thing about this is it would fill in many of the Midwest market gaps we currently have, and more importantly, take out probably our most significant and growing central and South American competitor
04-05-2022, 02:23 PM
#63
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Joined APC: May 2019
Posts: 986
Originally Posted by DontCallMeCindy
Rough math using 320 stats only is JB relative seniority will be 9:2/8:2/5:2?
Aka a Spirit 2 year FO expects 320 CA in their most junior base. Takes 5+ years to hold JFK 320 CA rn.
Check me on that—but their career expectation is way better than ours rn and they are growing much faster and have a ton more bases.
Given our much higher payrates, the 190 fleet that’s going away, 220s, etc., who the heck knows. We also have what 2x as many total pilots?
My guess is a 10 year JB pilot should expect parity with roughly a Spirit 4 year pilot.
But down to brass tacks: what color will our shirts be? Please say white, please say white
I’m not optimistic at all about where JB pilots’ could come out on this.
Aka a Spirit 2 year FO expects 320 CA in their most junior base. Takes 5+ years to hold JFK 320 CA rn.
Check me on that—but their career expectation is way better than ours rn and they are growing much faster and have a ton more bases.
Given our much higher payrates, the 190 fleet that’s going away, 220s, etc., who the heck knows. We also have what 2x as many total pilots?
My guess is a 10 year JB pilot should expect parity with roughly a Spirit 4 year pilot.
But down to brass tacks: what color will our shirts be? Please say white, please say white
I’m not optimistic at all about where JB pilots’ could come out on this.
04-05-2022, 02:26 PM
#64
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 597
Originally Posted by DontCallMeCindy
Bright yellow shirts, blue ties. Clown makeup?
04-05-2022, 02:27 PM
#65
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Posts: 1,378
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
I’d love for that to be a reality at JB. I’ve done the past decade+ on RSV here.
04-05-2022, 02:45 PM
#66
SDQ Base Chief
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Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,588
Originally Posted by Chimpy
thats absolutely miserable. Sorry to hear that. I can’t imagine living that life. Jezuz
04-05-2022, 02:47 PM
#67
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,848
Spirit pilots gain BIGLY in seat pitch for deadheads.
I however will not cross seatbelts or dig trash from seats.
I however will not cross seatbelts or dig trash from seats.
04-05-2022, 02:52 PM
#68
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Posts: 27
Originally Posted by DontCallMeCindy
Rough math using 320 stats only is JB relative seniority will be 9:2/8:2/5:2?
Aka a Spirit 2 year FO expects 320 CA in their most junior base. Takes 5+ years to hold JFK 320 CA rn.
Check me on that—but their career expectation is way better than ours rn and they are growing much faster and have a ton more bases.
Given our much higher payrates, the 190 fleet that’s going away, 220s, etc., who the heck knows. We also have what 2x as many total pilots?
My guess is a 10 year JB pilot should expect parity with roughly a Spirit 4 year pilot.
But down to brass tacks: what color will our shirts be? Please say white, please say white
I’m not optimistic at all about where JB pilots’ could come out on this.
Aka a Spirit 2 year FO expects 320 CA in their most junior base. Takes 5+ years to hold JFK 320 CA rn.
Check me on that—but their career expectation is way better than ours rn and they are growing much faster and have a ton more bases.
Given our much higher payrates, the 190 fleet that’s going away, 220s, etc., who the heck knows. We also have what 2x as many total pilots?
My guess is a 10 year JB pilot should expect parity with roughly a Spirit 4 year pilot.
But down to brass tacks: what color will our shirts be? Please say white, please say white
I’m not optimistic at all about where JB pilots’ could come out on this.
All this got my head spinning 😵💫
04-05-2022, 02:55 PM
#69
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Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
Originally Posted by DontCallMeCindy
Rough math using 320 stats only is JB relative seniority will be 9:2/8:2/5:2?
Aka a Spirit 2 year FO expects 320 CA in their most junior base. Takes 5+ years to hold JFK 320 CA rn.
Check me on that—but their career expectation is way better than ours rn and they are growing much faster and have a ton more bases.
Given our much higher payrates, the 190 fleet that’s going away, 220s, etc., who the heck knows. We also have what 2x as many total pilots?
My guess is a 10 year JB pilot should expect parity with roughly a Spirit 4 year pilot.
But down to brass tacks: what color will our shirts be? Please say white, please say white
I’m not optimistic at all about where JB pilots’ could come out on this.
Aka a Spirit 2 year FO expects 320 CA in their most junior base. Takes 5+ years to hold JFK 320 CA rn.
Check me on that—but their career expectation is way better than ours rn and they are growing much faster and have a ton more bases.
Given our much higher payrates, the 190 fleet that’s going away, 220s, etc., who the heck knows. We also have what 2x as many total pilots?
My guess is a 10 year JB pilot should expect parity with roughly a Spirit 4 year pilot.
But down to brass tacks: what color will our shirts be? Please say white, please say white
I’m not optimistic at all about where JB pilots’ could come out on this.
04-05-2022, 02:58 PM
#70
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JetBlue bids for Spirit Airlines
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
Spirit pilots gain BIGLY in seat pitch for deadheads.
I however will not cross seatbelts or dig trash from seats.
I however will not cross seatbelts or dig trash from seats.
The 190 will be fenced so dont even dream of it
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