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04-29-2022, 01:49 PM
#22
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Position: blueJet
Posts: 4,511
Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
I just can’t imagine the board letting Joanna run an airline nearly twice this size. It just can’t be. Being an attorney, I guess she’s suited to facilitate a merger/acquisition though.
04-30-2022, 11:08 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Mar 2020
Position: Airbus 320 Left
Posts: 254
Originally Posted by IAFDOF
Of course there are problems everywhere. The question is, whose management do you trust to be more competent long term? Delta has issues, sure, but they’re not likely to last. Jetblue, as others have said, isn’t giving me a lot of faith in their ability to fix things. They’re talking about it now, at least, but talk is cheap, and a botched merger with Spirit could get *real* ugly.
I want B6 to be a destination, but with the way things are right now and the legacies hiring in droves, can one really make a good argument for staying? But yes, misery is relative, so don’t take my misery as actual fact. It’s just BS airline pilot misery.
I want B6 to be a destination, but with the way things are right now and the legacies hiring in droves, can one really make a good argument for staying? But yes, misery is relative, so don’t take my misery as actual fact. It’s just BS airline pilot misery.
05-03-2022, 06:48 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
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Originally Posted by Descendto450
I think we are all in the same boat. Great job recognizing that "It's just BS airline pilot misery" my buddies at Delta are complaining about the same issues. Hopefully this talk pans out to some action but the last 12 years dosnt give me much faith. Pilots have been on here saying the same things they are now "why come here when there is no growth and no attrition." Well we've done nothing but grow (minus 2020) since I've been here and we are finally starting to see more then single digit retirements. I still enjoy going to work, mostly because of the crews I fly with but also the constant Eps/Primium pay/ VDA they keep throwing out there.
05-03-2022, 03:04 PM
#25
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Position: Airbus 320 Left
Posts: 254
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
They literally just announced slower growth.
05-04-2022, 03:49 PM
#26
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Position: Airbus Capt
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Originally Posted by Descendto450
They announce pushing back orders and slowing growth every year. Nothing new with that announcement. Anyone on the line can see that we have over extended ourselves and have been behind the hiring curve for all work groups since last spring. Slowing down a little bit isn't a bad thing, summer still going to be crazy.
Their big solution to pilot attraction/attrition/staffing is to try to hire more and "double down on culture", you know, because most pilots that leave JB are leaving because their isn't enough "culture". Facepalm.
Put it all together and you have less growth, slower seniority progression, will last for years, and their solution will make it worse, not better...
There's a word for that... Bad
05-05-2022, 04:30 PM
#27
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Position: Airbus 320 Left
Posts: 254
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
It is a bad thing, when you really consider the reasons. They slowed the growth for the rest of the year largely because of staffing, and largely because of pilot hiring/attrition. In addition, Robin clearly said on the conference call with Wall Street that this problem could continue for the foreseeable future/years.
Their big solution to pilot attraction/attrition/staffing is to try to hire more and "double down on culture", you know, because most pilots that leave JB are leaving because their isn't enough "culture". Facepalm.
Put it all together and you have less growth, slower seniority progression, will last for years, and their solution will make it worse, not better...
There's a word for that... Bad
Their big solution to pilot attraction/attrition/staffing is to try to hire more and "double down on culture", you know, because most pilots that leave JB are leaving because their isn't enough "culture". Facepalm.
Put it all together and you have less growth, slower seniority progression, will last for years, and their solution will make it worse, not better...
There's a word for that... Bad
05-06-2022, 07:45 AM
#28
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Position: A320CA
Posts: 385
Originally Posted by Descendto450
As I said same slowing of growth as they say every year "sometimes with different wording" it's apparent we need a reset and it looks like we are getting one. This should allow for other work groups to catch up with hiring. I agree with you on the idiocracy of "doubling down on culture". That ship sailed years ago.
05-06-2022, 03:45 PM
#29
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
Originally Posted by Cockpit997
This…the are positioning themselves better and will resume. It needs a spark as well though, the brand is a bit tired looking after what we’ve all been through. Something big would be good.
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