For anyone that wears stripes on their shoulder and is paying attention, it was a BRUTAL call. Even if just public posturing, it was almost beyond belief how lost they are with the big picture.

this call scares me. Completely tone def call. They simply don’t “get it”. As my history here shows, I’m really not a pessimist— but this makes me lose all faith in management.

What is worse- is that call will spur more folks to leave— thus exacerbating the attrition problem. I’d think pilots here, who are not A320CA’s or who don’t live in Boston— will vote with their feet and leave. Absolutely no reason to stay unless a A320CA or living in Boston.

I don’t believe management can effectively run/manage and grow and airline.

Similar to Spirit's plan: "we're gonna hire our way out of it".

Yep, completely out of touch, tone deaf.

From the executives of the U.S.S. BJ "We have identified a massive hole in the hull of our great ship. Very large quantities of water are as we speak gushing into the hull. We have all the knowledge and tools to make a proper repair of the hull and stop the water from coming in. However, upon high level discussions with your "leadership" team, we have decided on a better course of action. We are moving the ship to shallow waters, so should too much water enter the hull, the ship will safely rest on the bottom of the ocean while keeping the officers quarters safely above the water line. We have also placed a large order with our business partners to acquire paper towels, to allow our incredible crew members the opportunity to try and soak up the water breaching the steerage levels of the ship. We are in talks with our preferred board-owned business-partners about the feasibility of pumping air into the hull of the ship to help buoyancy, and if ineffective, may allow some crew members access to limited amounts of breathable air. Some may ask, why not just fix the hole in the ship? Well that's what our legacy competitors would do, and we like to think we are different, better, more nimble, more innovative. While fixing the hole would certainly solve the problem, we believe this alternative solution designed by Wet-Ventures could lead to better long term stakeholder value. In the mean time, and while we take the time needed to study the final implementation of these interventions, which are tentatively scheduled to begin late next year, please remember to blow forcefully into the tube at the top of your life vest labeled "manual inflation". Please join other leaders in the officers quarters above the water line for cheese it's and pepsi products, but we ask you towel dry and wipe your feet dry."

We can’t be surprised though. Incompetent people running airlines into the ground is nothing new. We know who these people are. I expected nothing less. I’m hoping a Spirit acquisition will bring an entirely new management team in. If it’s the same people with an airline nearly twice the size, that’s cause for concern. Joanna is in way over her head; that’s obvious. Whatever confidence I had in Robin is gone. It’s our BOD that is ultimately the problem. One thing we can take assurance in is pilots are at an absolute premium right now. Somehow we’ll land on our feet.

Wasted potential. Year after year after year. Wasted potential. Over and over and over. Wasted potential.

The vote of no confidence was nice to see, but why is it not targeting JG, and why is there not a full page add about it in the WSJ?

Those ads cost money. And so far the union hasn’t seen a penny of the $500,000 in dues they’ll rake in when we get our LOA17 payments.

something you and I agree on. Maybe there is hope after all

I’m assuming they’re waiting to get further into Section 6 negotiations before they fire they shot. Although it I’m being honest with myself, I have slightly more faith in our Union than I do our management.