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Roy Biggins 04-26-2022 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer (Post 3412707)
That call was basically the end of Jetblue being a growth airline. Adjust your career expectations accordingly.

Like BlueDriver said, this place has so much wasted potential. It’s a shame really. Could easily be the best airline in the business with competent leadership…even as an LCC.

Flyby1206 04-26-2022 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer (Post 3412707)
That call was basically the end of Jetblue being a growth airline. Adjust your career expectations accordingly.

Nailed it.

Otterbox 04-26-2022 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer (Post 3412589)
The vote of no confidence was nice to see, but why is it not targeting JG, and why is there not a full page add about it in the WSJ?

Was the vote of no confidence supposed to be taken seriously by anyone observing after the pilot group just gave a tremendous vote of confidence a month before in the form of scope concessions that give away what- 30-40 percent of their flying? Seems like the No confidence vote was a bone thrown to no voters after JB ALPA sold them a dog poop agreement to mitigate the risk of recalls longer term.

True Airspeed 04-26-2022 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 3412747)
Was the vote of no confidence supposed to be taken seriously by anyone observing after the pilot group just gave a tremendous vote of confidence a month before in the form of scope concessions that give away what- 30-40 percent of their flying? Seems like the No confidence vote was a bone thrown to no voters after JB ALPA sold them a dog poop agreement to mitigate the risk of recalls longer term.

Amen! Additionally, I’d be pretty surprised if anything good comes from that vote if no confidence letter, either. But hey, we can at least look forward to that 3% pay bump. Yay! [sarcasm]

pilotpayne 04-26-2022 07:24 PM

Can someone ask Elon if he wants an airline?

That call was some real BS. I think they know the exact problem but as usual are to stubborn to admit it. They always think only they have the answers and yet it’s not so. Just like the one analyst said, y’all talked about all this growth while months ago other airlines were cutting and now here you are. The arrogance of this airline management is amazing especially given their performance. When asked what they will do the answer is “double down” on culture. Uh what culture you killed it.

They think the gateway program will save them but it won’t as soon as these “diverse” pilots (as JG says)get the experience they will be gone especially if they are diverse (nothing against diverse pilots)

Irony of all ironies is to help with staffing they will slow the growth which will only lead to more attrition.

Some pilot should make a PowerPoint slide of a graveyard spiral because that’s what they are in and their answer seems to be keep pulling the yoke back.

btw happy pilots day, even if JetBlue didn’t bother to acknowledge it.

smh

Bluedriver 04-26-2022 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 3412862)
Can someone ask Elon if he wants an airline?

That call was some real BS. I think they know the exact problem but as usual are to stubborn to admit it. They always think only they have the answers and yet it’s not so. Just like the one analyst said, y’all talked about all this growth while months ago other airlines were cutting and now here you are. The arrogance of this airline management is amazing especially given their performance. When asked what they will do the answer is “double down” on culture. Uh what culture you killed it.

They think the gateway program will save them but it won’t as soon as these “diverse” pilots (as JG says)get the experience they will be gone especially if they are diverse (nothing against diverse pilots)

Irony of all ironies is to help with staffing they will slow the growth which will only lead to more attrition.

Some pilot should make a PowerPoint slide of a graveyard spiral because that’s what they are in and their answer seems to be keep pulling the yoke back.

btw happy pilots day, even if JetBlue didn’t bother to acknowledge it.

smh

Yep, why would junior pilots stay if there is mininal growth and minimal retirements. Just sit at the bottom of the list and rot. Genius plan.

Or... keep the original planned growth rate and TRY AND MAKE THIS PLACE DESIRABLE FOR PILOTS? Call me crazy, but it just might be crazy enough to work...

Softpayman 04-27-2022 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 3412747)
Was the vote of no confidence supposed to be taken seriously by anyone observing after the pilot group just gave a tremendous vote of confidence a month before in the form of scope concessions that give away what- 30-40 percent of their flying? Seems like the No confidence vote was a bone thrown to no voters after JB ALPA sold them a dog poop agreement to mitigate the risk of recalls longer term.

30-40% of our flying ? You’ll have to explain that.

Rabid Seagull 04-27-2022 07:42 AM

JBLU @ $10.91...Isn't May " hostile take-over" month?

What would happen to JBVentures and the Expedia wanna-be place?:rolleyes:

BOD has to be tired of all this BS, we certainly are.

Zerosilver84 04-27-2022 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 3413058)
JBLU @ $10.91...Isn't May " hostile take-over" month?

What would happen to JBVentures and the Expedia wanna-be place?:rolleyes:

BOD has to be tired of all this BS, we certainly are.

Can't use a stock right now to compare anything. The whole market is weak and been bleeding for months now.

Bluedriver 04-27-2022 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Zerosilver84 (Post 3413074)
Can't use a stock right now to compare anything. The whole market is weak and been bleeding for months now.

However, JB dropped far more than the industry yesterday after an earnings call... Dropped more than 11% in one day. It was not a good call.


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