Yep, 100%.

 

Agreed 100%! The “gotta complete the mission” mindset is tough to convince otherwise.

 

Wow a 17 year jetBlue CA left for United? How old was this guy?

 

49

filler

 

I can’t keep track… is this at JetBlue or United?

 

I'll be a pompous baby when someone without a spreadsheet guesses 2% max, and it's up to 10%. Facts....

 

Rumor on the other board is he got a management role of some sort, not a line pilot.

 

That 2% was never MY estimate. Still, for you to keep ALL of your relative seniority, it has to come from others, and it does so from what would have been MY future seniority progression when hundreds, maybe closer to 1k of younger NK pilots hired well after me (and much younger on average) get placed in front of me and pillage my future seniority movement, and the future movement of hundreds of others like me.

100% DOH would work better for me, yet I have not advocated for that, and haven't been a whiny baby that I won't get it. Because I understand that wouldn't be "fair". Others here don't care about "fair" or others, and just want all five sandwiches for themselves, and everyone else can starve.

 

And where did I say it was your estimate? I just refuted his numbers. I haven't advocated for 100% RS. I have stated that 50% would be an immediate decrease in the RS seniority of the 10 year in group at NK. Irrefutable.
Show me the numbers of how it would impact your life if those " hundreds, maybe closer to 1k of younger NK pilots hired well after me (and much younger on average) get placed in front of" you would impact your future seniority. If we go by 100% RS just as many relatively speaking would be added behind you, so zero impact on your seniority initially.
Yes if they are younger they will impact your upward progression. But you have no clue by how much because we don't have DOB on our seniority list. Anecdotes =/= data.

And FYI, that second sentence of you definitely blocks out the engine noise: If we go by 50% what will happen to "MY seniority progression when hundreds, maybe closer to 1k of JB pilots hired well below me in RS get placed in front of me and pillage my seniority movement, and the movement of hundreds of others like me". (see what I did there?)

 

I can see you don't make serious posts.

Look at the retirement numbers between Spirit and JetBlue, spirit is a much younger pilot group. The average age of a new hire major airline pilot would statistically prove to be reliable in showing that those hired later, are on average younger, and spirits group, I believe, trends even younger than normal.
But at the end of the day, each committee WILL have the DOH data to show the arbitrator, and will have the models to show the future seniority progression destruction of a straight RS integration.

Future seniority progression is a known thing, not some hypothetical thing. And it's just as important and relevant as your current relative seniority. You can't have all of one, without taking from the other when age varies as much as it does between these groups.