Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3527084)

The company will come back with a number that the MEC says is “Not even in the ballpark! Insulting! That number needs to come way up to match what our survey response demands and what our pilot group deserves!”

The company will drag feet for 8 months, then add 1%. The MEC will call it a “Home run for the pilot group.” and vote unanimously to send it to the pilot group for ratification. And then hard-sell it right up to the morning that voting closes.

Originally Posted by Sludgefund (Post 3527212)

Minimal pay bump with a signing bonus will be the company play.
The “coming recession” will be the angle

Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 3527265)

hopefully our mec will grow a pair and tell them to shove that offer so far up themselves and declare a labor dispute before the holidays.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3527271)

Yeah, And then what?

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3527276)

And then beat their chests for 8 months, telling us how they’re fighting to get us what we really deserve… 1% more than the company’s initial offer. Winning.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3527277)

That's the union leadership, I'm asking what he thinks this pilot group is actually going to do about a labor dispute?

Maybe some of this group learned from the last go-around, but there are also 1,000 pilots who weren't even here for the last negotiations.

Of course they should declare a labor dispute immediately if the counteroffer isn't serious and substantial, I just fail to see the teeth in that declaration with such a passive group.

Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 3527305)

at least those 1000 new guys see their old companies giving out 100k bonuses so they might fight for something.

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3527288)

I guess that will depend mostly on their Captains.