While I agree with Blue that the pay rates are way too low. I really like some of the work rule improvements that Alaska received in the TA. Section 25A (delays) and 25y (reassignments) would be nice improvements for us. Glad to se UAL & AA turn theirs down.

This bears repeating. We most likely aren’t getting any improvements besides pay so the pay increase needs to reflect that.

You can say that again.

I bet they got a lot done.

The only thing that was supposed to happen today was the unions opener. Maybe they ended up doing a little more.

Word on the street is the company wants this done quickly.


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if they want it done quickly and with only pay it better be 30%. Just to get up to Alaska and not have certain gains they got in their contract is unacceptable

Another 2 weeks to even hear a counter proposal. Yea it ain’t happening quickly.

well as Alaska will only be about 12 percent more then us in 2023 I don’t think that will be hard to beat. I agree with the 30 percent but I’m hoping for more then 12 percent for the first year.

12% for a maxed out CA, yes, but it’s 17% for year 2 CA’s and 20% for year 2 FO’s. That’s getting there, but much under 25% should be an automatic no, especially for the 190 guys getting paid far below the going 717 rate at DL/HA.

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