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PeakEGT 11-06-2022 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3527313)
Hopefully...


The 1000 came in when you guys sold scope…

Bluedriver 11-06-2022 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by PeakEGT (Post 3527646)
The 1000 came in when you guys sold scope…

Speak for yourself... I didn't agree to sell anything.

pilotpayne 11-07-2022 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by PeakEGT (Post 3527646)
The 1000 came in when you guys sold scope…


ha not all of us.

Bluediver 11-07-2022 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 3527781)
ha not all of us.

Only the 62%

skblu 11-07-2022 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by PeakEGT (Post 3527646)
The 1000 came in when you guys sold scope…

How was scope “sold” in the last contract?

IAFDOF 11-08-2022 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by skblu (Post 3528365)
How was scope “sold” in the last contract?

Remember, we got 3% and a coupon for a free meal at Bennigans (with the purchase of a meal at equal or greater value, of course.)

Boomer 11-08-2022 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by skblu (Post 3528365)
How was scope “sold” in the last contract?

It wasn’t the last contract, it was LOA 17.

Company: “We need to rewrite this scope section because otherwise the NEA would be in violation. We’ll give you 2% plus furlough relief.”
MEC: “Hey guys, vote for this scope relief. Because 2%! If we vote no, the company can’t do the full NEA and we get nothing. Plus furloughs!”
Pilots: “We’re allllllllmost convinced… but no. Not just no, but HELL NO. And 49% yes.”
MEC: “That’s right! We’re worth way more than 2%! Hell no!”
Company: “Sorry you feel that way. I guess we’re going to violate your scope. You give us no option.”
MEC: “Wait… you can do that? Grievances!”
Arbitrator: “So, what do we have here?”
MEC: “They said they needed us to change scope because the NEA violates it. We voted no, and they did it anyway.”
Arbitrator: “Is this true?”
Company:
MEC: “We even have fourteen memos, nine bulletins, three Q&A sessions, and five pocket sessions where the company says that exact thing.”
Company: “Those were never official company announcements. Besides, we’d like to activate our “We can break the contract as long as it makes more money” clause.”
Arbitrator: “There’s no such clause.”
Company:
Arbitrator: “I’m required by law to make my ruling within 30 days. So you guys take up to a year… and talk this through.”
Company: “2% is our first and final offer.”
MEC: “The pilots of JetBlue have spoken. It’s going to take a lot more than 2% for us to let this violation stand. Plus we see how much money Jetblue is making with the NEA - and the pilots deserve a bigger chunk of that. 2% is a pittance.”
Company:
MEC: “Not good enough.”
Company:
MEC: “It’s a clear violation. You are not even in the ballpark.”
Company:
Arbitrator: “Are you ready for my decision?”
Company: “3%”
MEC: “3%? We’ll take it! Home run baby!”
Pilot group: “3%? We’ll take it!”
Company: “Interesting. Well, on that note, let’s talk Section 6 openers…”

Bluedriver 11-08-2022 07:19 AM

That's really funny, and basically entirely true. Well done.

MainlineFlyer 11-08-2022 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3528521)
It wasn’t the last contract, it was LOA 17.

Company: “We need to rewrite this scope section because otherwise the NEA would be in violation. We’ll give you 2% plus furlough relief.”
MEC: “Hey guys, vote for this scope relief. Because 2%! If we vote no, the company can’t do the full NEA and we get nothing. Plus furloughs!”
Pilots: “We’re allllllllmost convinced… but no. Not just no, but HELL NO. And 49% yes.”
MEC: “That’s right! We’re worth way more than 2%! Hell no!”
Company: “Sorry you feel that way. I guess we’re going to violate your scope. You give us no option.”
MEC: “Wait… you can do that? Grievances!”
Arbitrator: “So, what do we have here?”
MEC: “They said they needed us to change scope because the NEA violates it. We voted no, and they did it anyway.”
Arbitrator: “Is this true?”
Company:
MEC: “We even have fourteen memos, nine bulletins, three Q&A sessions, and five pocket sessions where the company says that exact thing.”
Company: “Those were never official company announcements. Besides, we’d like to activate our “We can break the contract as long as it makes more money” clause.”
Arbitrator: “There’s no such clause.”
Company:
Arbitrator: “I’m required by law to make my ruling within 30 days. So you guys take up to a year… and talk this through.”
Company: “2% is our first and final offer.”
MEC: “The pilots of JetBlue have spoken. It’s going to take a lot more than 2% for us to let this violation stand. Plus we see how much money Jetblue is making with the NEA - and the pilots deserve a bigger chunk of that. 2% is a pittance.”
Company:
MEC: “Not good enough.”
Company:
MEC: “It’s a clear violation. You are not even in the ballpark.”
Company:
Arbitrator: “Are you ready for my decision?”
Company: “3%”
MEC: “3%? We’ll take it! Home run baby!”
Pilot group: “3%? We’ll take it!”
Company: “Interesting. Well, on that note, let’s talk Section 6 openers…”


This is gold.

pilotpayne 11-08-2022 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3528521)
It wasn’t the last contract, it was LOA 17.

Company: “We need to rewrite this scope section because otherwise the NEA would be in violation. We’ll give you 2% plus furlough relief.”
MEC: “Hey guys, vote for this scope relief. Because 2%! If we vote no, the company can’t do the full NEA and we get nothing. Plus furloughs!”
Pilots: “We’re allllllllmost convinced… but no. Not just no, but HELL NO. And 49% yes.”
MEC: “That’s right! We’re worth way more than 2%! Hell no!”
Company: “Sorry you feel that way. I guess we’re going to violate your scope. You give us no option.”
MEC: “Wait… you can do that? Grievances!”
Arbitrator: “So, what do we have here?”
MEC: “They said they needed us to change scope because the NEA violates it. We voted no, and they did it anyway.”
Arbitrator: “Is this true?”
Company:
MEC: “We even have fourteen memos, nine bulletins, three Q&A sessions, and five pocket sessions where the company says that exact thing.”
Company: “Those were never official company announcements. Besides, we’d like to activate our “We can break the contract as long as it makes more money” clause.”
Arbitrator: “There’s no such clause.”
Company:
Arbitrator: “I’m required by law to make my ruling within 30 days. So you guys take up to a year… and talk this through.”
Company: “2% is our first and final offer.”
MEC: “The pilots of JetBlue have spoken. It’s going to take a lot more than 2% for us to let this violation stand. Plus we see how much money Jetblue is making with the NEA - and the pilots deserve a bigger chunk of that. 2% is a pittance.”
Company:
MEC: “Not good enough.”
Company:
MEC: “It’s a clear violation. You are not even in the ballpark.”
Company:
Arbitrator: “Are you ready for my decision?”
Company: “3%”
MEC: “3%? We’ll take it! Home run baby!”
Pilot group: “3%? We’ll take it!”
Company: “Interesting. Well, on that note, let’s talk Section 6 openers…”


and that is a bingo


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