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Old 05-28-2023, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BananaHammock View Post
Ah yes, I remember being drenched head to toe in the old Bell 47 bubble, got dang fishbowl hahaha.

Yeah, I get there's a lot of whiners here but it just doesn't serve any of us to argue among ourselves. I just remember reading a thread where someone was just talking about what they like about NK(they seemed young and new maybe?) and the B6 guys were just being effin doosh canoes(I'm sure it's happened the other way around too...).

In any event, I think we get away with loose language here at NK just due to the sheer ineptitude of screw schedulers. I'm not super good at contract language and lawyer type stuff but I know I've made some bank a few times due to that. Pack your patience as they say, I don't know an airline where that doesn't apply.

Hopefully, we get a really good breakdown section by section (which I'm sure we will at some point) and we can both get a contract that beats the "Majors" on QoL and matches on pay.

I used to be able to drop to 65 credit at my regional and we can drop to zero here and I love that personally. I haven't worked in over a month(1 week of vacay in there), hahaha. The schedule flexibility is great, hopefully we can extend that to Reserves as well (drop, swap and proffer)
I would love drop to zero. Please fight for it on your end. I know a lot of B6 dudes on here don't necessarily see the value in it, but our current system isn't much better than OO. Makes it tough to drop/swap if our mysterious reserve grid isn't at the required level. Your system sounds much better. Not only could you build the schedule you want, but if you really needed to go on that Costa Rican vacation or be at jr's baseball game, you know you can do it. Idk why I'm telling you this.

For what it's worth, I've never flown with any douche canoes here. Everyone is super chill. I'm sure they're out there, everyone has them and, like I said, the internets brings out the worst.

How did you like the 47? I was thinking about buying one in a couple years, especially since I recently learned there's turbine versions out there in the wild?!
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Old 05-28-2023, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco View Post
“Studying the judgement”🙄…translation: coming up with a way to spin this as a “poor us” to the judge for the merger

https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/05/28/this-airline-just-got-magnificent-news-investors-d/?source=eptyholnk0000202&utm_source=yahoo-host&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=article

they seem to think this is good for the merger.
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Old 05-28-2023, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GrayFlyer View Post
I would love drop to zero. Please fight for it on your end. I know a lot of B6 dudes on here don't necessarily see the value in it, but our current system isn't much better than OO. Makes it tough to drop/swap if our mysterious reserve grid isn't at the required level. Your system sounds much better. Not only could you build the schedule you want, but if you really needed to go on that Costa Rican vacation or be at jr's baseball game, you know you can do it. Idk why I'm telling you this.

For what it's worth, I've never flown with any douche canoes here. Everyone is super chill. I'm sure they're out there, everyone has them and, like I said, the internets brings out the worst.

How did you like the 47? I was thinking about buying one in a couple years, especially since I recently learned there's turbine versions out there in the wild?!
Good to hear about the canoes, I've not met any B6'er in person that didn't seem decent enough, these chat forums can bring out the best of us sometimes...

Love the 47. Did my ab initio in a D1 model. Flew a straight G a G3-B1 and a G3-B1 Turbo but never been in a Soloy turbine conversion. A 47 with a no bar kit flies just like a Jet Ranger so I reckon a turbine 47 would be like flying a JetRanger that will only go 50 knots downhill. My instructor a 47 guru is no longer with us but you could probably give Dutch County a call in Pennsylvania, they still fly one I believe. We have a NK guy that teaches for them in the 47.
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Old 05-29-2023, 08:31 AM
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JetBlue is stopping service between BOS and EWR next month. Bummer, cause they are a great backup for when the United flights are jammed full.
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Old 05-29-2023, 10:15 AM
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JetBlue is stopping service between BOS and EWR next month. Bummer, cause they are a great backup for when the United flights are jammed full.
Even more shrinking at EWR......theres a surprise. This won't affect the base as this is flown by 190 BOS crews, yet cuts to service benefit nobody. Furthermore I would take this as a diagnostic of what the plans for B6 EWR are long term, outcome of merger notwithstanding. So if you live in PA or the Gowdin State...I wouldn't bank on all those pandemic flights coming back as so many of us keep trying to talk into existence.
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Old 05-29-2023, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto View Post
Even more shrinking at EWR......theres a surprise. This won't affect the base as this is flown by 190 BOS crews, yet cuts to service benefit nobody. Furthermore I would take this as a diagnostic of what the plans for B6 EWR are long term, outcome of merger notwithstanding. So if you live in PA or the Gowdin State...I wouldn't bank on all those pandemic flights coming back as so many of us keep trying to talk into existence.
Those flights were the bulk of the temporary sacrifices made at the alter of Mayor Pete to help mitigate the FAA understaffing…. Cull the routes that are least yielding using the smallest most inefficient planes. This was announced as a direct result of the FAA asking each airline to reduce NE capacity by 10%.
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Old 05-29-2023, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto View Post
Even more shrinking at EWR......theres a surprise. This won't affect the base as this is flown by 190 BOS crews, yet cuts to service benefit nobody. Furthermore I would take this as a diagnostic of what the plans for B6 EWR are long term, outcome of merger notwithstanding. So if you live in PA or the Gowdin State...I wouldn't bank on all those pandemic flights coming back as so many of us keep trying to talk into existence.
I think those cuts were part of the summer 10% reduction due to the ATC shortage. The NEA situation might actually cause EWR to grow a little (not like Covid). JetBlue will have a lot of extra airplanes (LGA slots going away) and they know they can do pretty well out of EWR. I wouldn’t be surprised to see EWR grow to 35-40 flights a day.
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Originally Posted by 11atsomto View Post
Even more shrinking at EWR......theres a surprise. This won't affect the base as this is flown by 190 BOS crews, yet cuts to service benefit nobody. Furthermore I would take this as a diagnostic of what the plans for B6 EWR are long term, outcome of merger notwithstanding. So if you live in PA or the Gowdin State...I wouldn't bank on all those pandemic flights coming back as so many of us keep trying to talk into existence.
Relax. This is the mandated 10% cut per FAA because they’re only staffed at 55% of what they need in NYC across all ATC positions.
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Old 05-30-2023, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikeer50 View Post
I think those cuts were part of the summer 10% reduction due to the ATC shortage. The NEA situation might actually cause EWR to grow a little (not like Covid). JetBlue will have a lot of extra airplanes (LGA slots going away) and they know they can do pretty well out of EWR. I wouldn’t be surprised to see EWR grow to 35-40 flights a day.
While you correctly point out that LGA slots going away we will give the opportunity for more deps out of EWR with availability of equipment, however since it is related to the 10% reduction (ATC shortage) then it is pretty unlikely there would be more deps out of another Metro NY airport.
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Old 05-30-2023, 01:26 PM
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While you correctly point out that LGA slots going away we will give the opportunity for more deps out of EWR with availability of equipment, however since it is related to the 10% reduction (ATC shortage) then it is pretty unlikely there would be more deps out of another Metro NY airport.
I agree in the near term. I’m thinking more toward the holidays or next spring. It should be interesting to see how exactly America and JetBlue unwind the NEA. So far it’s been over a week since the ruling and exactly nothing has changed externally.
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