TMAAT when you knew and what did you do?

 

The average -$1, A YEAR LATER. Don’t forget that part.


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Yes, you are 100% correct. BUT, it's still MUCH better than we have right now.

I'll take peer-set average (the old peer-set), a year later, with 150% above 78 hours over what we have now 100% (codified of course).

Before anyone says something stupid, they took that all away before we voted for a union. Took it away, not negotiated it away.

But hey, we knew they were going take it away years later, when we got hired right? And lemonade.

 

Still a rule change excuse me a peer set change

 

When I was hired we were within a couple bucks an hour of DAL, if your looking at rates only.

Also only paid 10% into retirement when peer set was only the big 4 as well. Then Raised it to 13 after adding to the peer set.

Of course the entire time with a 5% cliff on PS funding part of that “retirement”.

I’m not saying it’s better now I’m just saying it wasn’t all roses then either. There is a lot of history that got us to where we are now. Unfortunately I don’t think we had a militant enough pilot group to push us into the higher peer set with the arbitrator. Had the MEC sent it back we would’ve been iced. If your going to get iced you have to have the will of a very militant group to push the company outside of the negotiating table.

Let’s learn our lesson and be truly ready for next time. There is so much more required beyond pickets. It’s the everyday that gets you the contract you deserve.



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Why is everyone so F-ing afraid of being iced?! F-ing ice us then!! Who do you think that summer would have been worse off for, the pilots or the company? GD it man...when is this pilot group going to grow some balls and stand up for itself. Like watching a bunch of battered women walking around sometimes, I swear.

 

I have 3 of these 'Blue Darts' sitting in my email junk file. . .collecting dust. . . They will go to the highest bidder. I take Bitcoin, Apple Pay, Venmo, all to an off shore account. Message me if interested. It's a veritable bargain for a 50% chance of getting hired!

 

You completely missed my point. The pilot group as a whole wasn’t ready for it. Too many helpers. We get iced, all the helpers keep helping. Hopefully they have learned, but I’m guessing they didn’t.

I would love nothing more than to get iced with a militant group.


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Disagree Riddle. While it took some time, the pilot group was really galvanizing the last few months...great picket, lots of SOP flying....investors getting p1ssed, another picket and summer around the corner...we had the greatest amount of leverage we’d ever had and pi$$ed it all away...

 

Maybe but I also never saw an RSA or VDA not get picked up .

I also flew most of my trips with the top 500 and a lot of top 100 so I wasn’t exactly seeing a lot of 3 engine taxis.

Hopefully next time it won’t take us all 3 years to get there.


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