Question for JetBlue guys
04-30-2019 | 07:30 AM
#91
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I see my analogy upset some folks. Oh well.
The takeaway is that people who work at one place, and complain that they don't make as much as employees at the other place do can either a) apply to the higher-paying place and move on up, or b) accept that they work at a place that pays them less. Of course, trying to convince mgmt to increase their wage is always an added option to b) (in fact, it is the preferred option to whining on an internet forum about how they deserve more).
No one's arguing that our skills are worth something. But EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU at JB applied knowing the differences between JB and the legacies. Why accept the job, if it wasn't what you truly wanted? That seems to be the point of contention between those who like it here (85-90%) and those who choose to complain.
I prefer to enjoy my days off, save as much as I can to enjoy my life after JB, and live life to the fullest. Getting mad about where I chose to work is stupid, because that is where I CHOSE to work. I have no one to blame but myself if my life were to suck because of my job.
The takeaway is that people who work at one place, and complain that they don't make as much as employees at the other place do can either a) apply to the higher-paying place and move on up, or b) accept that they work at a place that pays them less. Of course, trying to convince mgmt to increase their wage is always an added option to b) (in fact, it is the preferred option to whining on an internet forum about how they deserve more).
No one's arguing that our skills are worth something. But EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU at JB applied knowing the differences between JB and the legacies. Why accept the job, if it wasn't what you truly wanted? That seems to be the point of contention between those who like it here (85-90%) and those who choose to complain.
I prefer to enjoy my days off, save as much as I can to enjoy my life after JB, and live life to the fullest. Getting mad about where I chose to work is stupid, because that is where I CHOSE to work. I have no one to blame but myself if my life were to suck because of my job.
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2019
and now.
Doesn't make it right. Just the same portion of the learning curve continually repeats itself as we continue to hire.
I have seen it on every committee I have been on. The company counts on newbie ignorance to slow the pace of the pilot group down as they learn for themselves all the lessons the previous committee group or pilots in the group have already learned.
Then we hire some more and the process repeats itself. 360 is what this company is desperate to find. Those that have 4.5-grade point average in TMAAT you turned a negative into a positive, looked the other way, found the bright spot, made a conflated rationalization. Then the company adds them into a project pilots status or interview team which makes them even more special and that the rest of us don't see or have the full picture of bluejet. Funny thing is our eyes are wide open and theirs are not yet. Sometimes they open and sometimes they are not. But it takes time which is what the company is counting on.
Time. It keeps marching on.
04-30-2019 | 09:04 AM
#92
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Airbus Capt
Different screen same talking points from;
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2019
and now.
Doesn't make it right. Just the same portion of the learning curve continually repeats itself as we continue to hire.
I have seen it on every committee I have been on. The company counts on newbie ignorance to slow the pace of the pilot group down as they learn for themselves all the lessons the previous committee group or pilots in the group have already learned.
Then we hire some more and the process repeats itself. 360 is what this company is desperate to find. Those that have 4.5-grade point average in TMAAT you turned a negative into a positive, looked the other way, found the bright spot, made a conflated rationalization. Then the company adds them into a project pilots status or interview team which makes them even more special and that the rest of us don't see or have the full picture of bluejet. Funny thing is our eyes are wide open and theirs are not yet. Sometimes they open and sometimes they are not. But it takes time which is what the company is counting on.
Time. It keeps marching on.
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2019
and now.
Doesn't make it right. Just the same portion of the learning curve continually repeats itself as we continue to hire.
I have seen it on every committee I have been on. The company counts on newbie ignorance to slow the pace of the pilot group down as they learn for themselves all the lessons the previous committee group or pilots in the group have already learned.
Then we hire some more and the process repeats itself. 360 is what this company is desperate to find. Those that have 4.5-grade point average in TMAAT you turned a negative into a positive, looked the other way, found the bright spot, made a conflated rationalization. Then the company adds them into a project pilots status or interview team which makes them even more special and that the rest of us don't see or have the full picture of bluejet. Funny thing is our eyes are wide open and theirs are not yet. Sometimes they open and sometimes they are not. But it takes time which is what the company is counting on.
Time. It keeps marching on.
04-30-2019 | 11:29 AM
#94
Gets Weekends Off
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04-30-2019 | 11:40 AM
#95
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If you are referring to the ledger entry at LSC then, of course, the left pocket is funding the right pocket.
That is what is happening now with our base pay rates and block hours and pairing construction and PTOSB, new VDA FCFS window (prem OT) and other items to get the new contract as close to zero cost. It is what this company has always done.
Last edited by BlueJetDork; 04-30-2019 at 11:51 AM.
04-30-2019 | 12:40 PM
#97
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Airbus Capt
04-30-2019 | 02:32 PM
#98
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,274
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
04-30-2019 | 02:36 PM
#99
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Retirement Advantage no longer applies to the pilot group.
If you are referring to the ledger entry at LSC then, of course, the left pocket is funding the right pocket.
That is what is happening now with our base pay rates and block hours and pairing construction and PTOSB, new VDA FCFS window (prem OT) and other items to get the new contract as close to zero cost. It is what this company has always done.
If you are referring to the ledger entry at LSC then, of course, the left pocket is funding the right pocket.
That is what is happening now with our base pay rates and block hours and pairing construction and PTOSB, new VDA FCFS window (prem OT) and other items to get the new contract as close to zero cost. It is what this company has always done.
04-30-2019 | 03:26 PM
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