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Old 05-18-2022 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
LOL!
“Just have faith” in the volunteers that brought us LOA 13 and 17. And if it doesn’t work out, just walk into a Delta jet in FOUR years!
Wow, what a fantastic plan!!
GMAB.

Must be nice having the ability to “just quit and go to Delta”. What’s stopping you now? You’d rather just leave the four years (5000 seniority numbers) on the table?
all fair questions.

i’m not leaving for delta because I believe we will get an industry leading contract.

my question is why aren’t you leaving for delta? Not trying to be a “like it or leave guy,” but if you really don’t believe in the union’s ability to get us an industry leading contract, why stay?
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Old 05-18-2022 | 06:16 AM
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I’ve heard 20% raise offer 3 yrs, 19% direct contribution and fully funded health care for United.
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Old 05-18-2022 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by seekingblue
all fair questions.

i’m not leaving for delta because I believe we will get an industry leading contract.

my question is why aren’t you leaving for delta? Not trying to be a “like it or leave guy,” but if you really don’t believe in the union’s ability to get us an industry leading contract, why stay?
I believe it's possible we get a top-tier contract. I think it would be wise for management to offer us an industry leading contract, if they want to actually grow the company in this pilot environment. Now, will they? Will our current union leadership actually push for industry leading, or actually be shooting for something just below the top contracts?

These are all open questions...
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Old 05-18-2022 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
I believe it's possible we get a top-tier contract. I think it would be wise for management to offer us an industry leading contract, if they want to actually grow the company in this pilot environment. Now, will they? Will our current union leadership actually push for industry leading, or actually be shooting for something just below the top contracts?

These are all open questions...
Its possible, but with our union reps and, more importantly, this pilot group, it will never, never happen.

I mean United was already near the top, with no problems recruiting. They got a massive raise, completely free health care, profit sharing, and snap up provisions! Can you imagine our pilot group asking to surpass the industry like that? It's always "slightly less" here, and I think it always will be, and we can look at ourselves as the reason. We vote yes to everything. LOA17 was the nail in the coffin for any hope here.
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Old 05-18-2022 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by seekingblue
all fair questions.

i’m not leaving for delta because I believe we will get an industry leading contract.

my question is why aren’t you leaving for delta? Not trying to be a “like it or leave guy,” but if you really don’t believe in the union’s ability to get us an industry leading contract, why stay?
I am leaving for Delta.
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Old 05-18-2022 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
I am leaving for Delta.
Dude/dudes, don't leave, they are working on it, they are gonna double down on culture, you are gonna regret not having all this culture that's coming...
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Old 05-18-2022 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
I am leaving for Delta.

congrats!!!
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Old 05-18-2022 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
Its possible, but with our union reps and, more importantly, this pilot group, it will never, never happen.

I mean United was already near the top, with no problems recruiting. They got a massive raise, completely free health care, profit sharing, and snap up provisions! Can you imagine our pilot group asking to surpass the industry like that? It's always "slightly less" here, and I think it always will be, and we can look at ourselves as the reason. We vote yes to everything. LOA17 was the nail in the coffin for any hope here.
Continue to discuss these issues with your fellow pilots. Don't give up.
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Old 05-18-2022 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PSU Flyer
Am I the only one who thinks they should’ve waited to release the survey until after the details of United’s AIP were made public?
From the email

"Your Negotiating Committee plans to issue surveys periodically throughout Section 6 negotiations so that our pilots have an ongoing means of communicating directly with the MEC and the committee regarding their priorities for CBA 2. "

I get it some like to stir the soup but can we not try to divide each other? Coming from a No voter on LOA 17.
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Old 05-18-2022 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
I am leaving for Delta.
Don’t Delta us when you walk by in the terminal

Congrats on the new job.
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