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Old 05-25-2018 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy
I'm waiting to see if this thing passes. Not convinced it will. If it passes, there will be a lot of transition training from the E190 to the A320. Senior bubbas first.

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Ok, some of those guys I’ve heard are waiting for the fleet review and bidding the CS. I dunno.
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Old 05-25-2018 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
Why is the airbus going very senior again?
Money 💰but I could be wrong
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Old 05-25-2018 | 11:06 AM
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Keep in mind the company knows the training language already in the AIP. It may benefit them to wait. If the TA fails they can also issue a supplemental bid just 1-2 weeks later. It’s not like that would move the training timeline any with the 6 month leeway they have(which is something I hope is fixed in the TA)

Don’t be surprised if this bid has next to nothing on it and they wait to see the TA results.


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Old 05-25-2018 | 12:19 PM
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I'm not convinced this contract requires nearly as much higher as people think. And attrition might slow some, but definitely not completely. We are still very much discount airline pilots even with this AIP.

I'm with Payne, smallish bid, Airbus goes more senior.
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Old 05-25-2018 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Money 💰but I could be wrong
My money is on this. Already talked to two relatively senior 190Ca going to the bus. “It’s $45-50k a year without blinking”.
That’s 2500-3000 more a month.
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Old 05-25-2018 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
Why is the airbus going very senior again?
i am assuming because the increase in pay difference between the two...
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Old 05-25-2018 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
i am assuming because the increase in pay difference between the two...
$52 an hour is a big difference and 10hr/3days now worth 15... no brainer.

Assuming it passes.
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Old 05-25-2018 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
$52 an hour is a big difference and 10hr/3days now worth 15... no brainer.

Assuming it passes.
The rates in the AIP are dead on arrival and we will simply be in last place again in a year or so. The rates alone are insufficient to deserve a yes vote. Unless they intend to raise those rates by quite a bit, no contract language will make me vote yes. Sorry but we are worth a lot more than that.


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Old 05-26-2018 | 01:44 AM
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Great! Now go sit in the corner. The adults are talking now.

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The rates in the AIP are dead on arrival and we will simply be in last place again in a year or so. The rates alone are insufficient to deserve a yes vote. Unless they intend to raise those rates by quite a bit, no contract language will make me vote yes. Sorry but we are worth a lot more than that.


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Old 05-26-2018 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Great! Now go sit in the corner. The adults are talking now.
You see Q? Only adults can understand selling themselves at a discount.
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