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11-02-2018, 05:19 PM
#7371
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by dontsurf
because people on the street have access to our supplementary bid system?
11-11-2018, 05:09 PM
#7373
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 30
So I have a CBA question for the masses. I am on a 4-day trip worth 25 hours. The last leg is very delayed and will now land at 0400 on my day off. The Captain thinks we’ll get 5 hours of VDA for the day off flying. It feels like we should but after looking through the contract I don’t think we will get anything. The ADG is worthless because this is a high credit trip. I can’t find anything else regarding the day off flying. The disrupted pilot clause talks about segments outside our OSP. It doesn’t really define segment. I think since it is the same flight number it is not a different segment.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
11-11-2018, 05:16 PM
#7374
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: B6
Posts: 777
I think he's thinking.... delayed into another calendar day which I believe is anything past 0100. I'm pretty sure it's 5hrs premium pay. I don't have the contract handy but, I recall something like that.
11-11-2018, 05:25 PM
#7375
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,588
Originally Posted by HeloBubba53
So I have a CBA question for the masses. I am on a 4-day trip worth 25 hours. The last leg is very delayed and will now land at 0400 on my day off. The Captain thinks we’ll get 5 hours of VDA for the day off flying. It feels like we should but after looking through the contract I don’t think we will get anything. The ADG is worthless because this is a high credit trip. I can’t find anything else regarding the day off flying. The disrupted pilot clause talks about segments outside our OSP. It doesn’t really define segment. I think since it is the same flight number it is not a different segment.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
11-11-2018, 06:15 PM
#7376
Covfefe
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
There was just a thread on bluepilots about this. Unless you’re operating a different flight number, you get zilch. If it was a 20 hour 4 day it’d become a 25 hour 5 day after 1am. But a 25 hour 4 day becomes a 25 hour 5 day in your situation for the purposes of the ADG rig.
Last edited by BeatNavy; 11-11-2018 at 06:31 PM.
11-12-2018, 01:29 AM
#7377
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,473
Originally Posted by BeatNavy
There was just a thread on bluepilots about this. Unless you’re operating a different flight number, you get zilch. If it was a 20 hour 4 day it’d become a 25 hour 5 day after 1am. But a 25 hour 4 day becomes a 25 hour 5 day in your situation for the purposes of the ADG rig.
11-12-2018, 02:37 AM
#7378
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Left,Right, Left, Right,Right,Left, Right, Left
Posts: 3,150
Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Wouldn’t the 1 am clause come into effect here? To get extra pay?
If you have a 25hr four day and land at 0115 on day five you get a 25 hr 5day. 18hr three day land at 0115 day four you score two hours.
If you’re trying to get EPS you must have been disrupted. New flight number and land beyond your original footprint. And changing from a operator to a DH doesn’t count.
11-12-2018, 03:16 AM
#7379
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,473
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
No and beatnavy is correct above. The 0100 clause is still based on average. Say you have a 15hr three day land at 0115 on day four. You win. 20 hr three day.
If you have a 25hr four day and land at 0115 on day five you get a 25 hr 5day. 18hr three day land at 0115 day four you score two hours.
If you’re trying to get EPS you must have been disrupted. New flight number and land beyond your original footprint. And changing from a operator to a DH doesn’t count.
If you have a 25hr four day and land at 0115 on day five you get a 25 hr 5day. 18hr three day land at 0115 day four you score two hours.
If you’re trying to get EPS you must have been disrupted. New flight number and land beyond your original footprint. And changing from a operator to a DH doesn’t count.
11-12-2018, 07:32 AM
#7380
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: At JBLU
Posts: 337
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
No and beatnavy is correct above. The 0100 clause is still based on average. Say you have a 15hr three day land at 0115 on day four. You win. 20 hr three day.
If you have a 25hr four day and land at 0115 on day five you get a 25 hr 5day. 18hr three day land at 0115 day four you score two hours.
If you’re trying to get EPS you must have been disrupted. New flight number and land beyond your original footprint. And changing from a operator to a DH doesn’t count.
If you have a 25hr four day and land at 0115 on day five you get a 25 hr 5day. 18hr three day land at 0115 day four you score two hours.
If you’re trying to get EPS you must have been disrupted. New flight number and land beyond your original footprint. And changing from a operator to a DH doesn’t count.
Doesn’t it ALSO have to be your last day?
IOW delayed on day 2 of four, outside footprint, new flight number only results in JRA pay? Not 190% EPS?
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