Bluedriver

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Bluedriver

You either don't understand the big picture, can't understand it, don't want to understand it, or have an ulterior motive.

Significant improvements don't happen without significant pilot support, and that doesn't happen without changing pilots perspectives/attitudes/expectations. There is a reason it took 3 union drives to finally get a union. There is a reason it took 3-4 years to complete our contract, with the first 2-3 years guys doing everything they could to help the company. You weren't here (although you still love to interject your opinion) for all the years to watch this group FINALLY start to transition from "just happy to be here, I'll take whatever you're willing to pay me, please sir" to a group that kind of slightly resembles that of a professional pilot union, kind of.

Tamping down public discontent by saying "don't complain, just make it better at the next negotiations" is entirely moronical, if making it better at the next negotiations is REALLY your intention.

Dudes (all, or at least most) need to fully understand and acknowledge the specific shortcomings of the CBA if those shortcomings are ever to be addressed, and the company must actually *FEEL* that discontent (in some tangible way) if they are ever going to write the check it will take to fix the things that torque us off.

Don't be moronical.

Bozo the pilot

So you have no clue what would have changed- I understand POG.

likeitis

How do you think Unions got LOA's while not in section 6 happen? How did AA pilots get a pay raise outside of section 6? How did AA get a min daily credit outside of section 6? By people *****ing, unity and a strong union jumping on opportunites when the company fails miserbly. Jetblue fails weekly and miserbly nearly monthly. They have the equivalent of a 20 year epoch failure yearly.

What would happen if everyone said enough to bailing out the company every month from their continued dropping the ball and short staffing? If everyone told them to pound sand with their incentive pay in violation of the CBA? Hell I would just like pilots to be able to recognize immedietly that it was a violation. The fact that many didn't just shows you that many didn't even read and understand the contract before voting on it. How about making scheduling do their job? I've sat in airports in the middle of trips for hours and hours waiting for scheduling to do their jobs at previous airlines and jetblue. I'm still on duty and duty rig still applies until they get me somewhere. My rest also hasn't started yet as well. At previous airlines though scheisse like what happens almost weekly at jetblue wouldnt fly. I was absolutely shocked the first time I got off a plane in the middle of an IROP and the Captain was calling scheduling to see where we were suppose to go. In a previous life I was in their SOC during an IROP with the POI randomly picking crewmembers off the seniority list (FA's and pilots) and she then ask the scheduler where this person was at that moment. Never saw them get it wrong and not sure what the feds could do if they got it wrong but that is how it's suppose to work. Too few WM's and too many MM's, bandwagons, hyper's and southern's for it to ever work like it should at b6.

hilltopflyer

When all the helpers time out this year it’s going to get fun.

Bluedriver

Yep.........

RiddleEagle18

Helpers don’t “time out” for a calendar year anymore. They all track their rolling calendars very closely and tend to only fly rigged trips.

Actually had a few complain about the higher credit trips we’ve had the past 2-3 months.


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nuball5

You sure about that? There’s no credit limit for Pt.117 obviously or the CBA. I’m willing to bet that most of the helpers that live in base have less block than your typical commuter/ non-helper. It’s all soft time, for some a 2:1 credit to block ratio.

Bluedriver

Good point.

hilltopflyer

Just talking to a captain last trip who said he is always close to breaking the 1000 limit. Gets denied trips for it. So figured it was prominent, I was also just guessing that the helpers started flying more recently since the operation can’t keep up.