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Old 11-25-2018, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy View Post
SWA has first class now.......interesting? You embellish...so much

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story? or in your case facts?........
I'm staring to think you may not be all there HB.
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Old 11-25-2018, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand View Post
They do pay cleaners. They’re called flight attendants. It’s in the job description.


Ah men brother! For some reason they are the only employee group that needs help doing their job.

Next time your going to an overnight with a RON aircraft ask them why they don’t stay and clean the plane. When they say because it’s not their job, ask them why then they expect everyone else to help them do theirs.


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Old 11-25-2018, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas View Post
I'm staring to think you may not be all there HB.
That has been apparent for years.
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Old 11-25-2018, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Gordie H View Post
Oh no doubt (PP and POG) but I'm just saying I'm ready to be done with this....
I agree it needs to die. I’m afraid our only official hope is what the FAs get in their contract.
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Old 11-25-2018, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy View Post
SWA has first class now.......interesting? You embellish...so much

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story? or in your case facts?........
Are you serious?

Gup
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Old 11-26-2018, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas View Post
I'm staring to think you may not be all there HB.
He just can't be.
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Old 11-26-2018, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
Ah men brother! For some reason they are the only employee group that needs help doing their job.

Next time your going to an overnight with a RON aircraft ask them why they don’t stay and clean the plane. When they say because it’s not their job, ask them why then they expect everyone else to help them do theirs.


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Their expectation comes from company leadership. They’re taught in training pass riders should help & then it’s reinforced from time to time…most recently the emails. It’s this that creates the resentment, division, etc.

It’s interesting…corporate leadership seems to genuinely believe – or at least it’s what they write – that the team cleaning thing actually builds unity. When, in my experience, the complete polar opposite is true.
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Old 11-26-2018, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordie H View Post
Their expectation comes from company leadership. They’re taught in training pass riders should help & then it’s reinforced from time to time…most recently the emails. It’s this that creates the resentment, division, etc.

It’s interesting…corporate leadership seems to genuinely believe – or at least it’s what they write – that the team cleaning thing actually builds unity. When, in my experience, the complete polar opposite is true.
It may have back in the day when there was a vision and they were fighting to survive. Now the company is doing fine financially and there is no vision. Who are we what are our goals how will we achieve those goals? There is a void in even basic leadership. This leads to the why should I and what is the point. This is just another example of a failure on management.

If they actually came out and said look this helps (you would need real) profit sharing and helps our (you would need real) growth they might be able to do it but as you said now it creates and us vs them, helpers and no helpers and that’s not good.

But since they can’t admit to being wrong they double down.
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Old 11-27-2018, 08:43 AM
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.......agreed
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:28 AM
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Theories/Rumors regarding the disproportional amount of vacancies posted for FLL in the system bid?

IMHO we are not understaffed there more than any other Base. Plus the North Runway will be closed for almost half of the year and scheduled flights are planned to be cut by about 20-25%.

Maybe trying to save money with less transfers, since it’s not a 190 Base?
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