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10-26-2023, 09:28 AM
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
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Originally Posted by Bluediver
A 5 hr min day would be fine as the trips are made today. JFK-KIN-JFK pays 8 day one followed by 2-4 paying 15. A min day instead of average would capture that extra 3 that is stolen from you today. Of course 6 is fine too and drives them to build a more productive trip. Buyer beware though, a 24 hr productive 4 day is likely to include at least 20 hrs block. I’m rather fond of not blocking a 1000 a year.
Just making a min day more than anything incentivizes adding a turn to the first and last day, and short layover SWA style trips. No thanks.
10-26-2023, 09:32 AM
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Yeah, my concern is that the pairings built today would not be built with any change in rules. Instead the company will build to the lowest common denominator. Replace your KIN turn on day 1 with a 6am report for a 5hr block turn and we're right back to the problem we have today, just a longer in-base layover to "enjoy."
TAFB rigs would at least compensate based on time away from home, which is pretty important to all of us locals and commuters alike. The company can still have low productivity 4day trips, but they would have to start late in the day and/or finish early on Day 4.
TAFB rigs would at least compensate based on time away from home, which is pretty important to all of us locals and commuters alike. The company can still have low productivity 4day trips, but they would have to start late in the day and/or finish early on Day 4.
Simply adding a min day will financially incentivize the company to add a turn to the first and last day, and build short layover ball-busting SWA style trips. No thanks.
We need to see around corners and anticipate what the company will do with rule changes and how they will come back to bite us.
10-26-2023, 11:50 AM
Gets Weekends Off
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Position: blueJet
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Listen to Bluedriver. Whatever fancy “get-rich on credit” scheme we can come up with… a month later the company will figure out a way to abuse it. Then we’ll all be griping about the non-commutable 5-day early report crap redeye trips.
10-26-2023, 12:09 PM
Bluediver the REAL deal
Joined APC: Jul 2022
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Yeah, my concern is that the pairings built today would not be built with any change in rules. Instead the company will build to the lowest common denominator. Replace your KIN turn on day 1 with a 6am report for a 5hr block turn and we're right back to the problem we have today, just a longer in-base layover to "enjoy."
TAFB rigs would at least compensate based on time away from home, which is pretty important to all of us locals and commuters alike. The company can still have low productivity 4day trips, but they would have to start late in the day and/or finish early on Day 4.
TAFB rigs would at least compensate based on time away from home, which is pretty important to all of us locals and commuters alike. The company can still have low productivity 4day trips, but they would have to start late in the day and/or finish early on Day 4.
10-26-2023, 01:49 PM
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,881
Originally Posted by Bluediver
I do see your point and wouldn’t mind you TAFB idea.
10-26-2023, 05:07 PM
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2021
Posts: 70
Originally Posted by nuball5
I know some junior captains that are fine with them. They are too junior to hold any day turns but live local. A 16 hour BOS overnight allows them to go see the family in the middle of the trip while still collecting per diem. They’re fine giving up a few hours each month for this.
10-30-2023, 08:29 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 157
Stolen from Reddit /flying RE airline cultures
If this B6 description is accurate then let's get this merger started already
Alaska: PNW hippies on shrooms, they think the fire handles are glowing
Spirit: Chillest pilots in the US, barely work and are happy they are on the right side of the cockpit door.
JetBlue: Also pretty chill, not hitting happy hour with an hour left is a fireable offense
Envoy/Endeavor: Think they are mainline, act like it
Republic: Mixed bag, some tools, taxi super slow and make bonehead mistakes, every Yx I’ve met in real life has been super chill though
PSA: They either love their job or hate it, good dudes though (CRJ GANG)
Piedmont: ???
Skywest: Bike seat to right seat
GoJet: Bunch of good people in a mediocre company, some weirdo captains
CommuteAir: Don’t hear much about them, they looked pretty sad
Mesa: Jumpseating to their court appearance
Spirit: Chillest pilots in the US, barely work and are happy they are on the right side of the cockpit door.
JetBlue: Also pretty chill, not hitting happy hour with an hour left is a fireable offense
Envoy/Endeavor: Think they are mainline, act like it
Republic: Mixed bag, some tools, taxi super slow and make bonehead mistakes, every Yx I’ve met in real life has been super chill though
PSA: They either love their job or hate it, good dudes though (CRJ GANG)
Piedmont: ???
Skywest: Bike seat to right seat
GoJet: Bunch of good people in a mediocre company, some weirdo captains
CommuteAir: Don’t hear much about them, they looked pretty sad
Mesa: Jumpseating to their court appearance
10-30-2023, 08:44 AM
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by BananaHammock
Stolen from Reddit /flying RE airline cultures
If this B6 description is accurate then let's get this merger started already
If this B6 description is accurate then let's get this merger started already
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