Southerner

No, I was serious. If he's not happy, that sucks. Hopefully he find happiness here, but if not, I hope if finds greener pastures.

rightside02

Don't worry Bozo , I got your letter of rec !!! Lol

atrdriver

Many of us are not happy here, but we would like it to be a place where we can be happy. Defending or rationalizing the company's small, frequent aggressions and their efforts to divide and demean their employees is not the path to happiness. Perhaps you will consider how your comments come across in that context.

BuckeyeFO

I don't understand how almost anyone could be happy with the current situation of making around 70% of your peers. Pay/benefits/work rules/retirement don't exist in a vacuum.
The "if you don't like it, leave" attitude is facile in an industry where your pay depends on years of service.

Anyone who isn't doing their part to bring the JetBlue's of the world up to (or near) the industry standard is an enemy of the pilot group.

Bozo the pilot

Can you get 3 friends to write one for me as well

Bozo the pilot

Well said- this is the problem with the Training/management guys.
Their perspective is disconnected from the pilot group.
Schoolhouse=Bubble

atrdriver

Thanks for wording it better than I could. Spot on.

todd1200

We can debate whether or not the current rate of progress is acceptable, but I think all parties involved recognize the need for substantial improvements to our pay and work rules. I don't think I've seen anyone on this board say otherwise.


I think it's more, "If you want to work for a legacy, go to a legacy." And it's not meant like, "Shut-up and color" but honestly if you're miserable here, there's no reason to stick around. Everybody is hiring and the longer you wait, the more seniority you pass up.

According to our MEC, our part is to wear a lanyard, stay educated, and fly SOP. I haven't seen any discussion on this board that runs counter to this.

Some people say we should never participate in cabin cleaning, some people say they personally comply with company policy if they are non-revving and don the blue gloves after all the customers are off of the airplane. Some people say the Lodge is a disgrace and some people say the Lodge is actually pretty convenient. Some people say management's intentions are patently evil and some people say they're just pragmatic. I don't think anyone is actually saying pilots should have to clean the cabin or that we don't deserve a raise. We all want these things to change, but question whether or not we need to be miserable in the meantime.

Personally, as a new-hire I enjoyed the Lodge. I had some sims that started at 0500 and others that finished at 0300, so the ability to walk 2 minutes to/from training was great. I drove down with a cooler full of craft beer, so the prohibition on personal booze in the rooms was a big letdown, but they had Jai Alai IPA on draft, so that cushioned the blow. The staff was amazingly friendly, the gym was nice and I think I played more basketball than I've played since high school.

I wear my lanyard, read the ALPA emails and try to fly SOP, I just don't see the need to participate in some kind of PsyOps campaign against anything and everything JetBlue.

--Just one new guy's opinion--

pilotpayne

Thank you for typing all of that.
Well said, now can this stupid thread die.
I don't even think buckeye works here. (Yes yes I know atr and bluedriver he has a point)

Bozo the pilot

This thread wont die until B6 gets us what we deserve-
Sorry if it's painful to hear some negativity when it comes to substandard pay and reserve rules.